MIL vs MOA

The way I look at this for my air gun use, is I use the holdover marks for aiming points. Since there are roughly 3.5 Moa - 1 mil the Moa scope will have more divisions or aiming points. I have a few Mil dot scopes that I really like the glass. But there are not enough aiming points and I have to split marks and it is not as accurate. For my energy guns. I just ordered a 1/2 mil that I hope will be ok for me. I guess I will know next week.
 
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I tough the same but I think all depends on the reticle choice

First one is MOA , you got marking for every MOA

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Second one is MIL and you got 1 MIL divide by 5 for additional 4 holding points



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So actually in this case you got more holding points in MIL reticle , just tinny bit more.

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The way I look at this for my air gun use, is I use the holdover marks for aiming points. Since there are roughly 3.5 Moa - 1 mil the Moa scope will have more divisions or aiming points. I have a few Mil dot scopes that I really like the glass. But there are not enough aiming points and I have to split marks and it is not as accurate. For my energy guns. I just ordered a 1/2 mil that I hope will be ok for me. I guess I will know next week.

This is why I would say that the reticle matters more than MIL or MOA. Not all reticles markings are in multiples of 1. Many MIL reticles are on multiple of 0.2. 

As you said, 1 MOA may be smaller, but the reticle will make all the difference. I agree that I like more aiming points, so I would not use a mil-dot scope for target shooting. My mil scopes are usually 0.2. 
 
Thank you for the information. I have never been a fan of scopes with busy reticles in the past 40+ years. My first PCP was for metallic silhouettes and I would click for distances. Then I started buying others. I bought a huntsman a few years ago for field target. I put a Aztec on it with the christmas tree reticle. The optics were not great so I bought a 6.5-20 leupold and got a christmas tree reticle put in it from the custom shop. I found I wouldn't work well for me and sold it also. Then I bought a couple Sightron big sky with mil dots, these are clear as a bell but have a dot at each mil. If I sight in my 177's at 30-35 the mil comes into play around 50-55 yards. I guess I need to look at more reticles. With all the new scope brands out there to look at I kinda give up. Because I buy stuff that isn't what works for me and selling isn't for me. My motto seems to be buy high sell low. Thanks for the pictures like the old commercial a picture is worth a thousand words.
 
One tenth mil at 100 yards is 0.329 (1/3) inch. Three clicks to the inch at 100 yards. Not enough difference to make a difference unless your rifle can shoot one hole groups at 100 yards and you are shooting flies.

I like both. I don't particularly like switching back and forth.


That's incorrect. .1 mil or a tenth of a mil is .36" at 100Y. 3 clicks are 1.08" at 100Y. For a quick approximation, sure use 1/3 inch but the problem is the error compounds worse with large adjustments. 

Ballistic app on the cell phone, and mils used in a FFP scope, for holds or for dialing, EASY, and on any magnification no less!

Application - Using a 1/8 moa click scope for long range is a PITA. Using a mil scope for long range is nice. You'll have about half the clicking to do using mil. For the most part pellet guns aren't accurate enough to take advantage of clicks that fine anyway. Never seen one do 1/16th inch center center groups at 50Y???

So FFP milliradian for me. I've won more matches with this combo by far and that includes FT. 

I only have one moa scope left, sold all the rest, the stable is full of mil scopes now. Anybody want a Athlon 1-4.5 service rifle scope in moa?
 
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...Using a 1/8 moa click scope for long range is a PITA. ...

That's why all my FFP scopes are 1/4 moa. 1/4 moa turrets are also more common than 1/8 moa in FFP scopes.

Yep 1/4 moa is what I would choose if a moa guy, I was just sayin...

Just mentioning this as well. Some moa turrets are 1/4" vs 1/4 moa/ or 1.047" at 100Y. This can occur with 1/8th" vs 1/8th moa too. The error, although not much, also compounds as more adjustment is dialed. For those unfamiliar with something that they may overlook when purchasing a scope. In cheap scopes this error becomes a moot point because a portion of those scopes don't track correctly anyway.

A mil, is a mil, is a mil.


 
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...Using a 1/8 moa click scope for long range is a PITA. ...

That's why all my FFP scopes are 1/4 moa. 1/4 moa turrets are also more common than 1/8 moa in FFP scopes.

Yep 1/4 moa is what I would choose if a moa guy, I was just sayin...

Just mentioning this as well. Some moa turrets are 1/4" vs 1/4 moa/ or 1.047" at 100Y. This can occur with 1/8th" vs 1/8th moa too. The error, although not much, also compounds as more adjustment is dialed. For those unfamiliar with something that they may overlook when purchasing a scope. In cheap scopes this error becomes a moot point because a portion of those scopes don't track correctly anyway.

A mil, is a mil, is a mil.


"...Some moa turrets are 1/4" vs..."

That's not an moa turret.

1/4" in 100yd turrets are only used on SFP scopes (and rightly so).