Midas Tac 6-24 Owners Question

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Sanctify7 said:
Once more, thank you for all this information, including the marked pictures. I hate to be lagging behind here, but I am not sure I am correlating what you said about reticle thickness vis-a-vis magnification with the markings in the pictures. Is 29x intentional in the second picture? Again, I don’t want to be tedious to you. Also, is this the Midas TAC reticle? If it is, it is my favorite dirty reticle to date.
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When on low magnification while looking at a FFP reticle with 0.2 mil spacing along the whole length of the vertical and horizontal line, to me, it looks thicker because the 0.2 mil lines are close together. I'm not sure what you mean by "vis-a-vis". The pic of the reticle at 29x is not intentional and I'm only showing you the differences between a 0.2 mil spacing and a 0.5 mil spacing looks like (The one's I circled in red). It's the Cronus BTR APRS6 reticle which I used for demonstration. Hope this helps.
 
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Sanctify7 said:
I got it. By vis-a-vis I simply meant "in relation to" or the like. Yes, it helps. Okay. So it's the Cronus BTR dirty reticle that I like. The reason I like it is because it is not overly cluttered as some dirty reticles are, for my taste, that is. Take care. I picked up some tips from you.
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The APRS6 reticle is also offered on several of their models. They do have the APRS6 reticle available for the Midas TAC HD in the 5-25×56 but not the 6-24x50. I had to edit my earlier post (#21) to reflect that. They also have the APRS6 reticle available in the Ares ETR UHD and Helos BTR GEN2. It's also my favorite reticle in the Athlon line.
 
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Peskådot671 said:
The APRS6 reticle is also offered on several of their models. They do have the APRS6 reticle available for the Midas TAC HD in the 5-25×56 but not the 6-24x50. I had to edit my earlier post (#21) to reflect that. They also have the APRS6 reticle available in the Ares ETR UHD and Helos BTR GEN2. It's also my favorite reticle in the Athlon line.
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Okay, if I have not worn you out yet, let me ask this question. If you have had personal experience with the Athlon lineup, is the difference in glass conspicuous as you move up the ladder in price? Thanks!
 
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Sanctify7 said:
Okay, if I have not worn you out yet, let me ask this question. If you have had personal experience with the Athlon lineup, is the difference in glass conspicuous as you move up the ladder in price? Thanks!
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The only Athlon scopes I have experience with and own are the Cronus BTR GEN2 UHD 4.5-29X56 and the Helos BTR GEN2 2-12x42. I haven't looked through any of their other lines so I can't really say. In general, every series from the bottom on up or from one line to the next will have slight differences for the better when making comparisons within or close to the same magnification range. Whether it be optically or mechanically.

Here's an example of a comparison between the Cronus BTR and the Ares ETR which is the next line down. Keep in mind that this is an older video and Athlon has since come out with the GEN2 version of the Cronus BTR. It's worth a watch if you have some time and haven't seen it yet.

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The video looks like it starts late so watch it from the beginning.

 
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I watched that video you mentioned before and just watched it again. Just remember that one shouldn't judge a scope's image quality based through a scope cam. Watching reviews of scope cam videos should just give you a general idea of what the reticle looks like and even at that, it's not the same as looking through a scope with the naked eye.

There are so many things to take into consideration when watching scope cam videos. It's more of how well you can align the camera to the scope and how good the camera is at making corrections internally and the settings of the camera. Just like a scope has so many internal lenses, so does the camera. One then has to adjust both the camera's settings and the scope's (parallax, diopter, magnification) settings to come out good on video.

The reviewer was comparing image quality of all 3 scopes based on looking through the scope cam. He never mentioned that he looked through all 3 scopes with the naked eye to do a comparison of image quality and list his findings. Just something to think about and hope you don't take this in a bad way.
 
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Greetings, P671.
Thanks for the data, once again. I am not surprised by your answer, and I have so little knowledge of these matters, especially experiential knowledge, that I am open to learn all I can. I suspected you may have come back with something. I am not bothered at all. I appreciate the time you invest in my concerns, and I will bear all this in mind. Here are two different but scope-related matters.
One, the problem with all this—besides me not knowing much about scopes—is not seeing things with my own eyes. I am the only airgun owner I know, and at my age, and with my busyness level, I am not joining anything as far as I can tell; thus, I will not likely be around other airgunners with various scopes that I can peer through. I wish I could have about ten scopes to leisurely use and figure out what my own eyes are telling me. The best I can do is watch videos and correspond with people such as yourself on AGN. And while all things need to be discerned individually, moving up in price should generally mean a better optic, all other things being equal.
Two, and building on my last sentence, just yesterday I mounted my new Helix 4-16x44 (APRC MRAD) on my new Crown MK II and today compared the image to that of my Hawke Vantage 3-12x44 (ca. $250.00) at a modestly low light level. The disconcerting thing was that when I looked through both setups, I think that the Hawke looked brighter. I am hoping that this was due to whatever and not indicative of the Helix’s lens quality. I was tired and did not get to try different scenarios. I am hoping for a significantly superior scope. I shall see what’s what in the future.
If, at any time, you get tired of tutoring me, just let me know.
Thanks. S7
 
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Glad to help. I'm not a scope or optics expert by any means. A lot of stuff I'm spouting is just regurgitated information. I can say a majority of us including myself don't have access to look through the rifle scopes were interested in. Unless you have access to a dealer that primarily sells optics, consider yourself lucky.

Then again, a lot of these dealers strictly sell online and don't have a store front. Also, some brick and mortar stores or big box stores like Cabelas and Bass Pro Shop might only sell a limited amount of rifle scopes for you to look through. It's tough picking out a scope.

Unless you frequent a shooting range and are not shy in asking others to peer through their scopes, it can be tough choosing an optic. I can say 100% that all the scopes I've purchased from $300 up to $4000 have been bought sight unseen. Like you, a lot of it is endless hours of research. Good luck in your search.
 
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This is an older threat but I own the MIdas Tac6-24 and 14 power is my go to magnification.

It is PERFECT at 14x. The reticle takes up nearly the entire view with just a tiny portion of the thick black border at the edges. I will try to post a pick of what you'd see....

As far as being too thin, absolutely not.

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Peskådot671 said:
Glad to help. I'm not a scope or optics expert by any means. A lot of stuff I'm spouting is just regurgitated information. I can say a majority of us including myself don't have access to look through the rifle scopes were interested in. Unless you have access to a dealer that primarily sells optics, consider yourself lucky.

Then again, a lot of these dealers strictly sell online and don't have a store front. Also, some brick and mortar stores or big box stores like Cabelas and Bass Pro Shop might only sell a limited amount of rifle scopes for you to look through. It's tough picking out a scope.

Unless you frequent a shooting range and are not shy in asking others to peer through their scopes, it can be tough choosing an optic. I can say 100% that all the scopes I've purchased from $300 up to $4000 have been bought sight unseen. Like you, a lot of it is endless hours of research. Good luck in your search.
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Thank you for the generosity of time and the common-sense information. Yes, purchasing a scope is a process; it's fun, but it's a rather iffy venture. I am probably crazy for buying another scope so soon, without even getting familiar with the Helix, but I bought a Hawke Sidewinder tonight and look forward to it's arrival. I really don't have the budget for it right now, but I caught an under half-price deal on eBay for an open box new 4-14x44. This is it for now, however. At least I can compare it to the Helix. Was the big number scope a Nightforce? S7
 
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