...idk , but i scored it off brad's airgun classys..... $200 shipped.... dude said he'd just get it down off the wall and fire it a couple times a year... i can see why the bluebook values them so low when they have the crude triggers and bulky stocks....but this one may be better....i'll know more next week....and i'll look the the few magazines i have left for that one... and so the guys that write the bluebook of airguns are not always right, i find....but it says the model 72 was simliar to the marksman model 70 (i'm guessing either power level or barrel length)....never found any data on a model 71 , but the models 58 and 58k are described as an r-11 would be (i wish i just could just copy / paste everything , but that must not be kosher).... i wish the bluebook had years of production , but that 58/58k one says discontinued in 1993....the model .......wait a minute.... the model 70 is probably like an r-10 (hw 85) - 8 lbs.........it has a marksman model 55 and 59 (carbine - 14" barrel) and then 7.5 lbs....that's more like an r-9.... that carbine sounds awesome ! these things werent cheap back then either.... anywhere from 300 retail to 490 for the underlever (hw77 type).....ive heard folks brag on those marksman models 60 and 61 (carbine)... goodnight , yall....the world series....man....i havent seen an 18 inning game since the dodgers vs the rockies (1994-5 ?) - hideo nomo pitched....his wind-up was crazy...the called it ' the swan ' ... good stuff , man....pure american history being made tonight...