Marauder Question

I have a Marauder G2, bit newbie too. Great airgun. (my first)
The reason that I decide to make my first post here is to say that crosman post sale service is awesome.

I had a few problems with my marauder; pressure gauge failure, wood stock problem and baffle clipping, So I decide to contact Crosman and within a few hours, they sent me a NEW WOOD STOCK, NEW BAFFLES AND A NEW PRESSURE GAUGE, also they were ready to send me a new Marauder (after I send mine), but since I do not live in USA, it was not really cost effective. So HANDS DOWN FOR CROSMAN SERVICE AND WARRANTY. 

BTW I love my 0.25 Cal Marauder, deadly accurate shots in 80 and 100 meters. I did took it to a gunsmith for fine tuning with a Chronograph, change a lot, now waiting for the regulator for 2 things, regulated shots of course and depinger (is annoying but do not affect performance).
 
Edosan - I agree that the Marauder shoots incredibly well out of the box. I believe the .25 caliber uses a Green Mountain Barrel, so even better than the barrel on my .22 caliber, and it shoots really well.

​Even though I just bought an Impact, I'll be keeping the Marauder. No intention to sell, yet. The Gen 2 Marauders have just gotten better with time. I believe Crosman is using a new barrel making method now that wasn't available when I bought mine 4 years ago.

It's a great gun, and great for hunting.
 
Saltlake58 totally agree, I just order the pistol too for short range shooting (From Pyramyd, 20% Bday discount!). I will also order the Fx Crown, but the Marauder will stay with me too. This weekend I shoot a few pigeons @ 100 yards with the Marauder, perfect shots...I am really impressed & Happy with it. As you mention, for hunting is really good!
 
I have a .22 mrod that Ihave done a good amount of work to. Added a reg and a marmot m barrel. Also did a bullpup conversion to it as well as several other tuning mods like various porting and whatnot. Not going to get into the details. I an tell you this is a great platform for modification and has an insane amount of support offering just about anything you want. Now with that being said I would not put it on the same level as a higher end pcp however I can say that my mrod can hang with them. But I did dump a good amount of extra cash into mine over time. Just something to consider. 
 
I think you are likely to find most people will be quite happy to endorse the Marauder. You may get some discussion on caliber. If you are intending to do some pesting, larger calibers do hit with more authority. A lot of people make the solid claim the .25 caliber "green mountain" barrel is the most accurate "factory barrel". This does not mean the other barrels are bad, it is just that the .25 caliber seems to edge out other barrels. I am not sure if it is simply that the ballistics tend to be better, the larger the pellet is. Some people have swapped out the .22 caliber barrel with the Marmot Militia brand barrel, and reported enhanced accuracy from the swap. Enough people have made the same claim, that I regard it as fact. If you want the greatest number of shots, and are planning on shooting at a maximum of 35 yards, the .177 barrel may be best for you. Just understand it is the caliber most affected by the wind, and tends to perform less well at longer ranges.

I actually started with a Benjamin Maximus single shot PCP, and it was a nice introduction to PCP. It was a .22 caliber PCP which only required 2000 pounds of pressure to fill. I selected it because I had an unreasonable concern about the difficulty to fill an airgun with a hand pump. It came as a "starter pack" which included the Benjamin hand pump. It worked well for the task. I ended up purchasing a .25 Marauder which I filled with the Benjamin hand pump, and although quite doable, it was a bit tiresome to fill by hand. Like others, I would endorse a better hand pump for air rifles which require a 3000 pound fill. I ended up getting a tank (mostly for my .357 bulldog).

Mods and more mods was the order of the day for me. When I got the Marauder I shot one full string through a chronograph. I wanted to confirm the gun worked, and what was the baseline performance of the air rifle. After that first recorded string, the Marauder was de-gassed and disassembled. The air-tube and especially where the hammer slid in the tube was de-burred and polished. The valve was replaced, a Huma regulator was added, a TSS adjustable spring assembly was installed along with a flyweight hammer, the port on the barrel was drilled out to .187 inches, a larger internal diameter port tube was installed, and the bolt was re-shaped to enhance air flow. It transformed the Marauder. Once tuned, it nearly doubled the number of good and accurate shots. It also increased the average shot power. The Marauder is an ideal platform to modify. There are several companies who make excellent parts for the Marauder. You can select components to go whichever direction pleases you. The most common tuning direction people go is the 40 (or more) shots at 40 foot pounds of energy (FPE), this is known as a 40/40 build. Some have modified the .177 to give crazy shot counts, others have modified them to shoot with 70 FPE for a limited number of shots (a 22 long rifle powder burner typically shoots with 100 FPE as a reference). Someone earlier mentioned a de-pinger, it is something added to the air tube to keep it from Ringing when you fire a shot, like a high pitched bell. If you add a Huma regulator, it eliminates ping. There is no need to get a Huma regulator AND a de-pinger.

And finally, the stock. I went with synthetic as the gun was going to be taken into the woods. For some reason, scratches on wood stocks make me unhappy. Scuffs on synthetic stocks do not offend me. Unless you win the stock-lottery, the woods stocks which come with Marauder tend to be a bit bland in terms of grain. If a stock is important to you, there are a few people in this forum who make custom stocks, but many will cost quite a bit. Also, Boyds stocks has an available multi-colored laminated stock they sell for the Marauder, some people have been happy with that product.

 
Thanks everyone for your feedback and sorry I've been away. Cataract in my primary eye was removed and I'm back to 20/20 vision.Yea!!!

I will be ordering the .177 cal for a couple of reasons. We had an abundance of acorns last year and the squirrels were over-running the neighborhood. They have/will cause quite a bit of damage which I will deal with very soon. Your gonna not like this.... but I bought a cheap .22 gas ram just to try out and the .22 is way to powerful to shoot in my back yard so I think the .177 is a better choice. If ya think the .22 will work, just let me know cause I have no idea.

I will not be making any mods to soon. I like to make sure I test out the rifle completely before thinking of changing anything(any of you ever say this???). Course.... I say this now, but if the rifle shoots as good as I expect it to, I might give it a look over. I'm looking for accuracy as my primary goal so if there are any mods to be made it will be in this direction.

Remember, I'm looking for the lower end of the power curve. Enough to produce a clean, accurate kill. A .22 will be my next purchase where I can go and shoot longer distances and bigger things. Bigger is better....right???? I don't think so. Enjoyment is better no matter what you have!

Since this will be primarily used to hunt, it will be synthetic. I do love wood and if that's what I end up with, a few scratches will not bother me. I call them character scratches. 

I really appreciate everyone's input. If you think I'm off the mark with my thinking above, just set me straight. 

Thanks
 
Airslave,
I do not hunt in any way, just not my thing, I'm purely a target guy. 
That being said, I was sighting in my 12 ft.lbs. Marauder, which I'm shooting an H&N Sniper Medium 8.5 grain pellet in .177 at about 795 FPS. .
A squirrel was way back in the field, at around 65-70 yds. or so. In sighting in at 55, the pellet travelled through my large posterboard, hitting the squirrel, which I could not see from my shooting bench. He immediately ran up a tree. I was a little upset, as i said, I'm not a hunter. When i looked through my large scope at 50x, i could see he was wounded, and struggling to stay on the branch. I decided that I did not want him to suffer, as he was too badly hit to recover. I took a head shot at him, and put him right down at exactly 85 yds. I felt bad, but I had to do it.
As I said, I am not a hunter. That being said, a 12 ft.lbs gun will have enough power to take a squirrel at the distance that I did, and rabbits as well. In England they have a 12 ft.lbs limit, and they regularly take squirrels and rabbits with these rigs.

Hope this helps in your pesting endeavors, the gun will be pretty quiet also.

Tom Holland 
 
I have two PCP air rifles. FX Impact and a Marauder. I'm not selling the Marauder because I like the gun. It's a bit long for my liking, but so are most air rifles, hence moving to the Impact.

The Marauder is adjustable, shoots well out of the box and has a nice trigger. The old Crosman barrels had accuracy issues. Crosman dealt with that problem with the Gen 2 Marauders. My gun is 4 years old, has one of the newer barrels and is very accurate out to 75 yards. If possible, chrony the gun and shoot in the mid to low 800 fps range. I try for about 830 and it's incredibly accurate and QUIET!

When you order, please check out the Crosman.com discount code AGNATION. it's a 25% discount off the order. So, on the Marauder, it's well over $100 off retail, and if they still do it, order on a Friday for free shipping. That makes the $540 retail Marauder $405 after the discount. You can add a pump or air bottle or whatever air fill system you want, but do check to ensure it's best value.

I personally prefer the Air Venturi system as it's regulated so cant overfill the gun, but your call. So much to think about!

To be honest, you can replace the entire guts of the gun (hammer, springs, and such) and add a regulator. After owning the gun for 4 years and still shooting stock from the factory, I'd add the regulator first. It won't give more shots alone, but it will even out your shot string. It'll be easier to shoot if it's always shooting at the same, regulated pressure.

Figure about 30 shots per fill and if you hand pump, that's about 100 strokes. If you replace the guts and tune it down to under 12 foot pounds, just look at Tom Hollands video and 300 shots per fill. That's way out of the ordinary and your results may vary.

Good luck, and welcome to the dark side as we like to call it. Just got back from the range and the Impact is finally settling down. Now that I have a chrony, I'll be retuning the Marauder for max shot count and accuracy. Maybe a compressor next????

Enjoy!
 
Saltlake,S

You are 100% correct. The Marauder in .177 can go down to velocities well below 600 FPS. You can get sub 12 FT lb. velocities without changing any guts, just regulating it. Without any other modifications other than simple factory adjustments, one can expect around 100-130 shots per fill. This would be considered normal for a stock factory Marauder.

Tom Holland 
 
Salt lake, 

A factory stock Marauder with either a Huma or Lane regulator will get 100-130 shots at just under 12 ft.lbs, but the adjustments will have to be altered in order to achieve these velocities and shot count. If they are not, and ONLY the hammer spring is adjusted in order to achieve these velocities, then you can expect to see around 50-60 shots at 12 ft.lbs.
This translates to an Air Arms or JSB pellet at 8.44 grains at 800 FPS, or a heavier 10.5 grain pellet at about 710-715 FPS.
FYI, a new Marauder in .177 will shoot at around 930 FPS with a 10.3 grain pellet from the factory. 
Also to note, you will get a higher number of shots from an Air Arms or JSB pellet, than a Crosman pellet in the same weights.
This is due to the tighter fit that Crosman pellets have in Crosman barrels. The pellet is a much harder alloy, and depends on a tight fit in order to make an airtight seal. Air Arms or JSB'S have thin skirts that blow out, and conform to the rifling. It is not uncommon to see a gun tuned for an Air Arms or JSB pellet to shoot at 800 FPS at 12 ft. Lbs., and the same weight Crosman pellet will go 100+ FPS less.

Tom Holland 
 
A .177 Marauder will fold squirrels up at backyard distance. My .22 Marauder even after being tuned down is still kind of too much power for rats and squirrels at the 15 yards that I shoot typically. I have a .177 Marauder we use now and just picked up a Maximus for 150 bucks shipped from Crosman this passed weekend during their sale. I like the Marauder for pesting but wanted something lighter. The only pest I would pick up my .22 over the .177 for is a crow. Don't forget you can get 13 and 16 grain .177 pellets.
 
bmoney - I agree on the power. A Marauder shooting at 830fps with the 14 grain pellets carries about 21 FPE at the muzzle. The .177 would be less but that is more than enough for rabbits at 50 yards. Squirrels and rats don't stand a chance at even half that! 

That is one thing I like about the Marauder though. You can adjust it in so many ways up or down. I can shoot the 14.3 Crosman domes or the 34 grain JSB heavies in .22 and adjust for the required power. You just get fewer shots per fill the heavier the pellet. It's a trade off, but you can deal with that.

Very flexible gun all the way through
 
"Saltlake58"bmoney - I agree on the power. A Marauder shooting at 830fps with the 14 grain pellets carries about 21 FPE at the muzzle. The .177 would be less but that is more than enough for rabbits at 50 yards. Squirrels and rats don't stand a chance at even half that! 
That is one thing I like about the Marauder though. You can adjust it in so many ways up or down. I can shoot the 14.3 Crosman domes or the 34 grain JSB heavies in .22 and adjust for the required power. You just get fewer shots per fill the heavier the pellet. It's a trade off, but you can deal with that.
Very flexible gun all the way through


They really are great rifles. I just wish they would make a mid size.