The cows allowed to see the fence at 190 yards. I shoot to stones at the edge of the fence: 
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Many of you will not like this !... My previous findings confirm it is a fact !!!
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Ain't Fallin for this trick again....Last time a poster told me he found the best and I should throw everything else out, I threw all my moderators in the dumpster..... 
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I'm going to respectfully disagree. Since the gun's TUNE has much to do with hammer spring tension, valve tension, back pressure to close the valve, etc... Also, what are you referring to as the "edge" in competition for FX airguns?
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Lock time. The tune has less to do with lock time than the hammer weight, spring rate, and travel distance. I have no qualms with disagreeing nor change in feelings towards ya, respect!
-Matt
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I like the semi auto. Eliminating the full auto, ok for me.
The semi auto is an advantage for hunting !!
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No problem... If Lock Time was a huge factor, Daystate Red Wolfs would win every tournament...
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I'll give a brief example...same gun but different hammer weight, travel and spring rate arrangements. If you want the math too, just ask.
A 78 gram stock marauder with 8 lb valve spring and a .75" travel distance will have a lock time of 6.85 ms before the hammer strikes the valve once released from sear.
A 7 gram hammer on a 7 lb spring with .875" travel distance will have a lock time of 2.61 ms.
-Matt
A 78 gram stock marauder with 8 lb valve spring and a .75" travel distance will have a lock time of 6.85 ms before the hammer strikes the valve once released from sear.
A 7 gram hammer on a 7 lb spring with .875" travel distance will have a lock time of 2.61 ms.
-Matt
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Lock time has “some” to do with accuracy, but not the end all, say all. As Centercut says, there’s valve dwell, there’s amount of time the projectile is in the barrel, there’s reg pressure, and air stripping and all sorts of things that will contribute to accuracy.
Also, you’re wrong about FX. in fact, the opposite is true. They tend to use lighter springs and heavier hammers. This helps with their efficiency, so the hammer doesn’t bounce back at the valve after hitting it the first time. Heavier springs tend to cause this more than heavier hammer weights.
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No problem... If Lock Time was a huge factor, Daystate Red Wolfs would win every tournament...
It's why I implied its one of many advantages FX has...I can't speak on them all honestly, only at the results I see year after year.
-Matt
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FX uses heavy hammers? Really...how heavy?
There is a much larger disparity in hammer lock times than valve dwell times from pcp to pcp.
-Matt
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Gotcha, the reality is the shooter at that level is a MUCH bigger factor than the gun. At the top 20 level in Pro divisions, every gun there is capable of winning, be it FX, Daystate, RAW, etc... FX wins more at RMAC because 90% of the competitors there shoot FX. At EBR, its closer to even between FX and Daystate with Daystate having the slight edge overall.
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Cannot disagree and I would still lend very low lock times to helping competitors shooting either of the two big brands...among many other factors.
Take the same shooter and even the same exact rifle and give it an abysmal hammer lock time and his score will very likely drop. If you disagree on that, so be it but I strongly feel lock time impacts results here.
-Matt
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Oh and actually lighter springs (both hammer and valve) are far more prone to re-opening valves / hammer bounce then shorter/heavier springs. Fwiw...if you want the math, just ask.
-Matt
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Strongly disagree. You can’t just come out and say, lock time is the only factor changing accuracy from one gun to another. That’s just complete poppy cock. There are SO many factors from gun to gun that will change accuracy, not to mention the user themselves. The reaso née have so many guns and manufacturers I. The first place, is because no user is the same.
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I would like that a very good EBR shooter could make some groups with a sidewinder.
If me, being a common sinner and just a hunter was able to make that group at 80 yards shooting from my rotating rest, I would like to know how good the groups can be shooting from a bipod by a good shooter.
If me, being a common sinner and just a hunter was able to make that group at 80 yards shooting from my rotating rest, I would like to know how good the groups can be shooting from a bipod by a good shooter.
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I never said that lock time is the only factor changing accuracy from one gun to another, care to quote that post where I stated this? Such an asinine statement.
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