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Migraine

Migraine

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Hi I am new to PCP guns, not new to firearms and reloading. I like the idea of being self sufficient, now to find the right tool for the job. I shoot, .177 .22 .25 and .30 currently. Any recommendations on swage dies, casting molds or? I have come across GMI, Airgunpelletmaker for swage. For the casting NOE seems to be the way to go. My final option would be to buy a mill and learn to machine :)

Any information would be appreciated, I am one of those odd want to build it my self women.

Thanks!
 
I thought about doing that myself but don’t know if I could make them as good as the pellets that shoot the best in my guns. Like H&N,JSB &RWS.Although I do have a few guns that will shoot Crosman’s OK.But I’m sure somebody here can give you some recommendations.
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Thanks Ripper I appreciate the reply! I have a good stash of pellets, just need something to keep my hands busy and try something new would be fun.
 
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I have been heavy into casting for .25, .30 and .357 calibers lately. The goal is to get all to shoot as good as the commercial pellets/slugs. I have been able to get the .30 cal cast pellets and the .357 cast slugs to shoot very straight. The .30 cals are my main focus currently. I have them grouping really well now, so I have cast some 3000 to have on hand. It has been a lot of trouble to get this far, but has been a lot of fun, too. I started out with 2" groups at .30 yards with the .30 cal cast pellets (47gr) to now drilling ragged holes at 50 yards with them. I had to get my NOE mold prepped correctly, the temps and lead mixture set correct along with the correct FX twist rate liner and speed. It's good to be self sufficient and I am really happy to have cast pellets and slugs shooting just as well as the JSBs, or so close you can't really tell much difference. I get all of my supplies from NOE.
 
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I've been casting pellets for my.22 and .25 pcps for a little while and they shoot pretty good. I use the moulds from NOE along with one from Arsenal that I requested be machined to throw.252 size slugs that the original design was for.257. They work very well in my Sumatra. I also find that using the brass molds work the best for me. For pellets all you need is a lead melting pot,a way of measuring the temp of your lead and your mould and you're in business. For slugs you'll need to be able to size them to what works best in your barrel. To find out what size slug you need you need to slug your barrel. 
 
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Hi

If your purpose is foundry hunting is fine, but if you are looking for long-distance precision, I recommend stamping and a kit isn't cheap at all, without a good kit and a lot of experience you will not be able to manufacture quality slugs. You can check the corbin website. 

Regards 

Enkey
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Hi Enkey,

I appreciate you taking the time to post, I will check out Corbin. I would like the slugs/pellets for hunting and informal target shooting. I will get a target rifle at some point, that will be a whole other topic.

Take care,

Margaret
 
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I have been heavy into casting for .25, .30 and .357 calibers lately. The goal is to get all to shoot as good as the commercial pellets/slugs. I have been able to get the .30 cal cast pellets and the .357 cast slugs to shoot very straight. The .30 cals are my main focus currently. I have them grouping really well now, so I have cast some 3000 to have on hand. It has been a lot of trouble to get this far, but has been a lot of fun, too. I started out with 2" groups at .30 yards with the .30 cal cast pellets (47gr) to now drilling ragged holes at 50 yards with them. I had to get my NOE mold prepped correctly, the temps and lead mixture set correct along with the correct FX twist rate liner and speed. It's good to be self sufficient and I am really happy to have cast pellets and slugs shooting just as well as the JSBs, or so close you can't really tell much difference. I get all of my supplies from NOE.
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Hi Triggertreat,

Thank you for the reply and information, just getting into the PCP rabbit hole :) myself. I know that I will shoot, .25 and .30 at some point I might grab something in .45 or .50 cals. I started down the PCP road with looking for something besides work, I love my powder burners they are just no economical to shoot (I type this after looking at PCP's starting at $1500 usd) My pitch to the spouse was it will be cheaper in the long run (it's my fib and I will stick with it). Once done with work today will venture over the NOE web site and look around. For the PSP I have a deposit on a Edgun L2 from Edgunswest, I have the primary barrel in .25 350 mm and will add one of the Valkyrie kits in 650 mm with a 200 mm moderator in .30. I am also looking at other PSP's they are like crisps or standard poodles can't just have one. 

Thank you for the information!

Take Care,

Margaret 




 
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... I started down the PCP road with looking for something besides work, I love my powder burners they are just no economical to shoot (I type this after looking at PCP's starting at $1500 usd) My pitch to the spouse was it will be cheaper in the long run (it's my fib and I will stick with it). .. 

Thank you for the information!

Take Care,

Margaret 



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If it can help you, I have a formula that works pretty good justifying spending good $ on a airgun. I call it CPS (As in, cost per shot).

- You add the cost of the rifle/pistol + accessories + ammo

- You then divide it by the number of years you'll use it (I like to amortize things over 5 years) and then you further divide it by the number of shots you'll fire on any given years.

If you're already doing PB, all the better. You'll quickly be able to "show" that spending on that airgun will save you $$ and the more you shoot... the bigger the saving!

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... I started down the PCP road with looking for something besides work, I love my powder burners they are just no economical to shoot (I type this after looking at PCP's starting at $1500 usd) My pitch to the spouse was it will be cheaper in the long run (it's my fib and I will stick with it). .. 

Thank you for the information!

Take Care,

Margaret 



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If it can help you, I have a formula that works pretty good justifying spending good $ on a airgun. I call it CPS (As in, cost per shot).

- You add the cost of the rifle/pistol + accessories + ammo

- You then divide it by the number of years you'll use it (I like to amortize things over 5 years) and then you further divide it by the number of shots you'll fire on any given years.

If you're already doing PB, all the better. You'll quickly be able to "show" that spending on that airgun will save you $$ and the more you shoot... the bigger the saving!

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We are on the same page! That is 100% how I approach things. My partner liked to buy cheaply made inexpensive things. After 14 years they figured out let me spend it now and not again in 6 months, with my things they noticed I would buy once and maybe never again because they last, with the exception of firearms or fishing equipment can never have enough. I stopped buying center fire ammo when .45 9mm 6.5 Creedmoore and 7.62 NATO went over $0.50 a round and primers if I can find them are $0.10 to $0.20 a pop. I still am finding .22lr at under $0.06 a round and .17Mach2 and .17Hmr around $0.12 to $0.20 a round. When I was not working a million hours a week would run 200-500 rounds of what ever caliber at the range, the PCP for me will allow back yard shooting and destressing.




 
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Probably preaching to the choir but "back yard shooting and destressing" are probably the main reason why I fell down the airgun-rabbit-hole

- But since most of my backyard/basement shooting is done between 10M to 20M, I can get away with less expensive H&N Sport/FT Trophy 

Not sure if you saw that thread from a few years back, about swaging pellets

https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/making-your-own-pellets/

It's interesting to see the power of the airguns increase, and the weight of the slugs slowly creep up. Recently noticed that 22 slugs were up to 30gr... The way things are going, I'll soon be able to "rationalize" a purchase since the airgun could share bullets with the Hornet... Heck, I'm starting to wonder if the 35gr .22 Air Rifle Mold 8 Cavity from MP would work in the hornet?


 
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That $800 H and HEM dies alone only cost $1200 including shipping and bribes paid but buyer beware of it gets confiscated by either side customs you don't get your money back it's not the makers fault nor responsibility.

Been waiting since May for a second set and usually takes around 2 to 3 months. I may be unlucky this time.

These dies can give you better than the best ever than the OLD JSB manufactured pellets easily sub moa consistent at 100 yards and half inch groups out of some guns as well. No sorting no sizing no weighing necessary only Lemon Pledge (Tom Holland style!) NO FLIERS.
 
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