For those of you out there that have the fx X barrels have you noticed any improvements in accuracy with washed and lubed pellets? What kinda of lubricant are you using?
Lubed pellets in X barrel?
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Hi,
Everyone is different, I have been washing and lubing the .25 25 grainers with good results.
I use dish washing liquid and Ballistol. Ballistol to help remove the factory coating, rinse with hot water then dishwashing liquid in a plastic salad strainer that has slits instead of a mesh to be gentle on the skirts, finally I lube with ballistol and then dry on a furry towel to help catch debris, finally hairdryer to help dry the lube.
I think the lube needs to be one that leaves no residue on the pellet after application so there are many options as far as lube is concerned...
Everyone is different, I have been washing and lubing the .25 25 grainers with good results.
I use dish washing liquid and Ballistol. Ballistol to help remove the factory coating, rinse with hot water then dishwashing liquid in a plastic salad strainer that has slits instead of a mesh to be gentle on the skirts, finally I lube with ballistol and then dry on a furry towel to help catch debris, finally hairdryer to help dry the lube.
I think the lube needs to be one that leaves no residue on the pellet after application so there are many options as far as lube is concerned...
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I just washed up a lot of 50 and did a light mist of royal purple synthetic gun oil. I guess we'll see what happens in the morning
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Simply place your pellets in a small container, cover them with acetone and swirl around gently - this will remove any factory lubricants used to keep them from clumping during the manufacturing process - then pour them into a strainer to separate them from the acetone, then pour them out onto a glass dish. In seconds the acetone will evaporate leaving the pellets clean - the evaporation process also leaves them very cold - so give them a couple minutes to reach room temperature and then spray a little of the Napier Power Pellet Lube on them. Then simply place them back in the can for later use...this whole process takes just a few minutes.
Set aside some of the pellets straight from the can, and some that you cleaned, and some that you cleaned & lubed. Shoot some of each starting with the ones straight from the can, then clean your bore with Hoppe's Elite Bore Cleaner. Then shoot some that were cleaned & re-clean your bore. Then shoot some of the ones you lubed with Napier. I'm sure you will find that the ones you cleaned and lubed with Napier will shoot 30-50% tighter groups than either of the other two groups.
If you are really serious about your accuracy then get a Lyman Digital Grain Scale and weigh all your pellets to one tenth of a grain and sort them into separate groups accordingly. Do this after you have cleaned them with the Acetone. Cleaning your pellets with Denatured Alcohol is an alternative to using Acetone as it leaves no residue and evaporates just as quickly. Then go shoot some of your pellets that have been cleaned, weighed, sorted, and lubed that all weigh the same. Do your shooting at 50 yards where the difference will readily reveal itself. I think you will be pleased with the results. Here is a link to the Napier: http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/cleaning-maintenance/napier-power-pellet-lube-0.85-oz-spray/.,, and here is a link to the Hoppes Elite Bore Cleaner: https://www.amazon.com/Hoppes-Elite-Cleaner-Spray-Bottle/dp/B0013RA39C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1525151439&sr=8-1&keywords=hoppes+elite.
All the best, Chuck
P.S. If you have used any other type of bore cleaner to clean your barrel or oils or silicone of any kind to lube your pellets, start out by running a couple patches wet with Acetone or Denatured Alcohol down your bore to remove those contaminants and then run a wet patch with the Hoppes and then a couple dry ones before you begin your shooting tests. The Acetone will remove any of these contaminants from your pellets also before you weight them and properly lube them with the Napier.
This process of cleaning my pellets and weighing them and lubing them is the foundation for the pellet on pellet accuracy I get at 50 yards with both my Wildcat and Streamline, and these rifles are set up to shoot at 60 fpe and 62 fpe respectively. Not only does it work for me but last Sunday my young friend Gabe, who is also a member here, tried lubing some of his .357 Predator Polymags to shoot from his Benjamin Bulldog. His groups shrank down to pellet on pellet at 50 yards also...he was shooting the bullseye out of the targets with one shot, as if he had stood there with a power drill just drilling perfect holes in the target bullseyes. The magic began only after he cleaned the barrel of his Bulldog thoroughly with the Hoppes Elite Bore Cleaner. You may contact Gabe here at AirgunNation at gaberossi for his side of the story...
Set aside some of the pellets straight from the can, and some that you cleaned, and some that you cleaned & lubed. Shoot some of each starting with the ones straight from the can, then clean your bore with Hoppe's Elite Bore Cleaner. Then shoot some that were cleaned & re-clean your bore. Then shoot some of the ones you lubed with Napier. I'm sure you will find that the ones you cleaned and lubed with Napier will shoot 30-50% tighter groups than either of the other two groups.
If you are really serious about your accuracy then get a Lyman Digital Grain Scale and weigh all your pellets to one tenth of a grain and sort them into separate groups accordingly. Do this after you have cleaned them with the Acetone. Cleaning your pellets with Denatured Alcohol is an alternative to using Acetone as it leaves no residue and evaporates just as quickly. Then go shoot some of your pellets that have been cleaned, weighed, sorted, and lubed that all weigh the same. Do your shooting at 50 yards where the difference will readily reveal itself. I think you will be pleased with the results. Here is a link to the Napier: http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/cleaning-maintenance/napier-power-pellet-lube-0.85-oz-spray/.,, and here is a link to the Hoppes Elite Bore Cleaner: https://www.amazon.com/Hoppes-Elite-Cleaner-Spray-Bottle/dp/B0013RA39C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1525151439&sr=8-1&keywords=hoppes+elite.
All the best, Chuck
P.S. If you have used any other type of bore cleaner to clean your barrel or oils or silicone of any kind to lube your pellets, start out by running a couple patches wet with Acetone or Denatured Alcohol down your bore to remove those contaminants and then run a wet patch with the Hoppes and then a couple dry ones before you begin your shooting tests. The Acetone will remove any of these contaminants from your pellets also before you weight them and properly lube them with the Napier.
This process of cleaning my pellets and weighing them and lubing them is the foundation for the pellet on pellet accuracy I get at 50 yards with both my Wildcat and Streamline, and these rifles are set up to shoot at 60 fpe and 62 fpe respectively. Not only does it work for me but last Sunday my young friend Gabe, who is also a member here, tried lubing some of his .357 Predator Polymags to shoot from his Benjamin Bulldog. His groups shrank down to pellet on pellet at 50 yards also...he was shooting the bullseye out of the targets with one shot, as if he had stood there with a power drill just drilling perfect holes in the target bullseyes. The magic began only after he cleaned the barrel of his Bulldog thoroughly with the Hoppes Elite Bore Cleaner. You may contact Gabe here at AirgunNation at gaberossi for his side of the story...
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Question on the Napier for pellet lubing: what about Kty-Tech (bicycle chain) wax lubricant? Or Ballistol?
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Wow good looking out fe7565... always nice to save a few bucks for sure!
All the best, Chuck
All the best, Chuck
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Several years ago I compared a freinds 22 Cricekt and my FX-400 with Krytex lubed and unlubed pellets. The Cricket produced tighter groups with the lubed pellets while the FX-400 showed a strong preference for the unlubed pellets. My old FX-400 has the Smooth Twist barrel.
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I took Chuck's method of using Acetone on the pellets. Dish soap cannot fully strip off the factory coating, as it's quite waxy/sticky. Acetone is an organic solvent and as we learned in chemistry class, "like dissolves like." After acetone the pellets are squeaky clean and very silvery.
I tried Napier's but settled on Krytech; it dries and leaves a light dry wax coating. I'm sure others have their favorite lubricant.
Good idea comparing washed vs unwashed vs washed/lubed. But I'll add that the barrel needs to be seasoned after each type of pellet is used. This is usually within 15 or so shots.
Kinda burns up pellets but the only way to get meaningful data. If you're really anal, then clean the barrel between each type...get rid of the variables.....
My Impact has been shooting really tight groups at 50 and 75 yards and it takes only 2-3 patches now to have a clean bore. Used to take more than 6 w/ unwashed/lubed.
I'm using the standard ST for now. Might be different on ST-X?
OOPS: Sorry Chuck, I missed your PS and just repeated here what u said about cleaning between tests....my bad.
I tried Napier's but settled on Krytech; it dries and leaves a light dry wax coating. I'm sure others have their favorite lubricant.
Good idea comparing washed vs unwashed vs washed/lubed. But I'll add that the barrel needs to be seasoned after each type of pellet is used. This is usually within 15 or so shots.
Kinda burns up pellets but the only way to get meaningful data. If you're really anal, then clean the barrel between each type...get rid of the variables.....
My Impact has been shooting really tight groups at 50 and 75 yards and it takes only 2-3 patches now to have a clean bore. Used to take more than 6 w/ unwashed/lubed.
I'm using the standard ST for now. Might be different on ST-X?
OOPS: Sorry Chuck, I missed your PS and just repeated here what u said about cleaning between tests....my bad.
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