Long Range Shooting Scope Problem

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Smitty8141

Smitty8141

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I have 3 guns that I use for shooting long distance. I have all 3 zeroed at 100 yards. The Hawke Sidewinder Scopes have enough vertical turret the I can dial up to my longest 240 yards. I use fx adjustable rings. I might be able to stretch to 300 yards near my property but can’t figure out any other way than adjusting the rings. I’m shooting across a lake, so I have no land between 240 yards and 300 yards. I thought I remembered seeing a video, maybe Ted, and they were using precision adjustable rings with an adjustment dial. Is anyone familiar with this? 

Thanks for any ideas
 
The first thing to do, if you can give up some close-range zero, is get a base with as much MOA as your scope can stand. You probably have a bunch of 'down' that you're not using. If you get an angled (e.g. 20MOA) base, then 20MOA of that 'down' becomes 20MOA more that you can use for 'up', effectively. There are adjustable precision bases (I've never seen rings by themselves) - expensive and heavy: https://www.eurooptic.com/era-tac-adjustable-inclination-mounts.aspx  Pretty extreme for a pellet rifle - I think you could get more mileage out of a sloped base. At some point the pellet will be going too slow / dropping too fast to be practical even for punching paper.

GsT
 
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I zero them with no down left. It’s the only way I have enough turret adjustment to go from 100 yards out to 240 yards. It’s about 4 full turns of the turret. I see the euro optics base, I agree, to much for an Airgun. To be honest I’m being lazy. I will have to re-zero each time using the adjustable rings going from 100 yard zero out to 300 yards. It’s a pia and I was hoping to find an easier way. The adjustable rings have enough adjustment to stretch to at least 300, might even be able to go to 350. It blows my mind that the pellets stay stable out to 240 yards. One of the guns is an FX Boss, I was sure the pellet wouldn’t be spinning fast enough out of a smooth twist barrel to stay accurate out to 240 yards, but it does. Makes a clean hole. 
 
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You will ruin your Hawke scope by clicking it all the way to its extremes like that. I agree buy another gun and shoot the lesser accurate one for closer range work and try not to click unless absolutely necessary for fine adjustments only.

The expensive adjustable base mounts may be an option but can't comment on their reliability nor repeatability since I haven't personally tried one.
 
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Bob, if I buy another guy I’m going to need to come live in one of your yards. I just bought my last one 3 weeks ago. I have had really good luck with the Hawkes. 2 out of the 3 I have been using for over 5 years and am brutal on the vertical turret. I had one die on me, I sent it into Hawke and they replaced it for free I have a total of 6 Hawke Sidewinders.

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Smitty,

there are a few solutions out there — the precision rifle series crowd is up on this stuff.

Here's a click-adjustable rail from Camiszon/Opteck, that should become available on Amazon shortly — maybe out already?

http://www.opteckmfg.com/index.php/Product/show/49.html



Please, in any case let us know what solutions you find — I myself am interested! 👍🏼





🔶 Your "issue" is that you don't have enough elevation adjustment range in your scopes. I sometimes find that piece of information is neglected by scope manufacturers (or tucked away...). 😄

Not knowing your scopes I assume you have around 24mil (80moa) of elevation adjustment range.

I find that pricier scopes have often (not always) more adjustment. In my sub-$500 Scope Specs List 6-24x/ 5-30x (with 10y parallax) I only find the following with at least 30mil/100moa:

▪Vector Continental 34mm 4-24x56 = 34mil/113moa elevation adjustment

▪Vortex Strike Eagle 5-25x56 (15y parallax!) = 33mil/110moa



Matthias
 
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I think what you are looking for is the Heritage Arms Cold Shot scope base. It is available in both 150MOA and 300MOA. It let's you leave the scope adjustments near the middle of the range where they are most accurate, and adjust elevation using the scope base. Using the Cold Shot MOAB, means the scope has to be mounted a little higher to allow for more scope clearance at those steeper angles. 
 
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When I began shooting at longer ranges like 200 yards plus with my Impact I used these two mounts for my scope. Started with the UTG 20MOA base as it was very inexpensive and I wanted to see if it would do the job. It werqed fine and I was able to rezero my scope and shoot dead on at 200 yards without being at or near the end of my scopes turret adjustment range.

https://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/UTG_Super_Slim_20_MOA_Elevated_Picatinny_Mount_13_Slots_0_55_High/7703

Then when I wanted to lose a bit of the bulk from my gun I changed over to the FX No Limit Rings and they werqed very well also.

https://utahairguns.com/fx-no-limit-scope-mounts-picatinny/

There are other ways also mentioned above with adjustable mounts that you can dial in at far greater ranges like the Cold Shot but they are spendy and were not needed for the ranges I shoot. They also add to the complexity and make the system more prone to slight adjustment inaccuracies. Which in the case of our shorter range airgun shooting would not mean much at all.

https://heritage-arms.com/product-category/gun-parts/cold-shot-llc-adjustable-scope-bases/
 
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