I have been reading and drooling about short rifles like bullpups. Im trying to be sure because I worry about not caring for the comfortable hold of a pup. My shooting is 80 percent walking around shooting offhand. So their compactness sounds desirable, even thou I haven't shot one. I had a cricket mini ordered but the order fell thru because of a damaged stock. They seem like a morph between the two. But Im too tempted to order a Wolverine because of the price. I shot all of the Daystates at the Daystate demo AOA had a few years ago. And I have never shot a off the shelf rifle as well as I did the Wolverine. But it's soo long with a moderator on it.