LoL, BRS, are you ‘ancient and cranky’ ? I know what you mean, even with my limited experience on optics I see no more light coming to my eye through my 60mm 30mm tube Sightron than my Bushnell Elite 1" tube 40mm. The Elite has a clearer picture depending on my mental state and eyeglasses. Half is what one WANTS to see. A chap pays $1,500 for optics, by golly it WILL be clearer than what he had before! And I LOVE the optics of old. We DO have the POTENTIAL to have better with todays coatings and robot arms, but those 35 inch long scopes are cool as hell, and WORKED! Any hunter that could hit a prairie dog at 200 yards on 7x through a dime width tube is a BadA$S.