Lesson Learned...hunting regs

[ZekeZX10]

I was all excited to hunt dove this year with pcp, didn't even bother looking up the regs I just assumed since you can hunt quail and collared doves with pcp, that once in season you could hunt white tipped and mourning doves with pcp... but nope, not in Arizona.

You can take migratory game birds (doves) with:
a. Bow and arrow;
b. Crossbow;
c. Falconry;
d. Dogs;
e. Shotguns shooting shot:

...a shotgun but not a pcp, I don't get it. Oh well, should have practiced with my bow more. Not much for shotguns, don't think I'll do it with my bow either so no doves for me.

Back to rabbits and ground squirrels.

 

[Trucker3573]

So many laws that make no sense. You can use a bow and arrow (makes sense and would def be my weapon of choice ) but not a pcp. Unbelievable.

 

[AirNGasman]

Can't hunt dove in Texas with airguns also...

Legally.

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[ZekeZX10]

I just don't understand the reasoning, you can use a shotgun but not a pcp, don't figure

 

[Kgphotos]

California is like that too. You can hunt Turkey and quail with an air rifle but not doves. It’s not so much that airguns are purposely excluded; it’s just that nobody has taken the time to change the law to include airguns. Therefore they are not allowed. I also believe that doves are a migratory bird and there are different rules for those.
Kenny

 

[Chukar60]

Aren’t doves a federally managed game bird? In Idaho we can hunt waterfowl with an air gun, or at least could. I haven’t checked the regs this year.
Rules were nothing over .20 caliber and non-toxic projectiles. That was all due to federal rules for migratory waterfowl.
Shoot the collared doves. IMO they are far better table fare than the mourning doves are.

 

[Vetmx]

I just don't understand the reasoning, you can use a shotgun but not a pcp, don't figure

The thing you are overlooking that you can’t hunt them with any powder burning single projectile gun. They aren’t excluding our beloved airguns. They are excluding bullets wizzing. For whatever reason? That’s above my pay grade.

 

[Revoman]

I believe that Kenny is on the right track.
Since dove, like any migratory bird, is Federally managed, they cannot be taken with anything but the named above (except dogs) in Kommiefornia. And also, cannot be taken using lead product.
I would imagine that would be true no matter what State you hunt due to the Federal Regulations.
Per Kommiefornia, any mammal or bird can only be taken with non-lead projectiles, meaning that lead is banned no matter what species is hunted with a FIREARM. This even if the lead is plated with another metal. Zero lead is allowed (well, there is something about a miniscule amount being legal).
Air is different and lead projectiles CAN be used. I checked with the Fish and Game in Sacramento for this year (again), and it's still okay.
The reasoning is that air guns are NOT considered as firearms (there's no "fire" with air).
Any RESIDENT game such as Turkey, Quail and the like (except Crows) can be taken with air.
Crows have had a season for about 6 years now and must be taken with a shotgun or poison, using written permission from the local Fish and Game office to use poison. This one makes zero sense to me....poison?!?!? C'mon man.
Further in this State, if you catch snakes, lizards, turtles, etc. You must have a valid hunting license (I believe a Fishing License is required, but I'd have to double check on that part).
And, yes, the Eurasian/Collard doves are MUCH larger than Mourning and White-Wing doves.

mike

 

[JimD]

An alternative might be to shoot pigeons. They are kind of big doves. In some states they are not protected at all. No season, no restrictions on what you can hunt them with. They tend to collect under bridges, especially if there is grain nearby.

 

[maxtrouble]

Moral of the story - Check you state and local regulations and always purchase the required licenses.

I received a $100 ticket from a Kansas DNR cop for trying to tickle a bass out of some water grass to impress the girl I was with. The fishing license was like $11. Lesson learned.

I purchase the Michigan hunting/fishing license every year in March? when they expire.

 

[beerthief]

Ky no for turkey but yes for the what is listed (note one of the listings is "small Game " and under Feral hog no caliber is listed .

Approved species for airgun hunting in Kentucky *​

Visit Division of Wildlife Frankfort, Kentucky ˃

• Beaver .22 caliber or larger.
• Bobcat .22 caliber or larger.
• Cottontail Rabbit
• Coyote .22 caliber or larger.
• Feral Hogs
• Fox .22 caliber or larger.
• Gray Fox
• Groundhog
• Grouse With pellets in .177 / .20 / .22 / .25 caliber.
• Mink .22 caliber or larger.
• Muskrat .22 caliber or larger.
• Opossum .22 caliber or larger.
• Otter .22 caliber or larger.
• Pigeons
• Quail With pellets in .177 / .20 / .22 / .25 caliber.
• Rabbit With pellets in .177 / .20 / .22 / .25 caliber.
• Raccoon .22 caliber or larger.
• Red Fox
• Skunk .22 caliber or larger.
• Small Game
• Sparrow
• Squirrel With pellets in .177 / .20 / .22 / .25 caliber.
• Starlings
• Varmints
• Weasel .22 caliber or larger.
• Whitetail Deer Firearms season only. .35 caliber or larger projectile designed to expand on contact & powered by an external source.

*Click on the specific state and read state specific regulations, limitations and requirements.
Always consult with your local state authorities to be sure there were no recent state changes impacting hunting laws and regulations in that particular state!

 

[ZekeZX10]

An alternative might be to shoot pigeons. They are kind of big doves. In some states they are not protected at all. No season, no restrictions on what you can hunt them with. They tend to collect under bridges, especially if there is grain nearby.

Only haven't seen a pigeon around here...I live out in the boonies. I did see a couple in the next town over but don't even see them in my small town of 2000 people...but doves everywhere

 

[coastal drifter]

Only haven't seen a pigeon around here...I live out in the boonies. I did see a couple in the next town over but don't even see them in my small town of 2000 people...but doves everywhere

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[boscoebrea]

Where I live doves fly! Shotguns is what we use..another thing is the range,because doves fly you do not want your pellets,bullets to fly too far and become a problem. Doves never sit where I shoot, hard enough to hit with a shotgun.