Leshiy Accidental Discharge Moving Safety > Fire

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I have only sent a few dozen pellets downrange so far with my new (gen 2) Leshiy. I had some situations where I opened the breech to load it just short of 180 (Atlas bi-pod was attached), I'd pull the trigger without releasing the safety (forgetting to release it), and as soon as I pushed the safety to fire - it would fire!

Is this "normal" behavior? I see nothing in the user manual stating this is normal.
 
Hmmm, not normal, seems flawed to me...the safety should keep the sear from releasing, what seems to be happening is the sear is releasing enough to allow just the safety itself to be the only thing holding it...have you tried any trigger adjustments? How does the trigger feel? Could be simply an adjustment necessary, if not then its design flaw 
 
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Hmmm, not normal, seems flawed to me...the safety should keep the sear from releasing, what seems to be happening is the sear is releasing enough to allow just the safety itself to be the only thing holding it...have you tried any trigger adjustments? How does the trigger feel? Could be simply an adjustment necessary, if not then its design flaw
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No adjustments (yet). Watching that video that I just posted above, as he claims the trigger is completely safe afterwards from this behavior!
 
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I have only sent a few dozen pellets downrange so far with my new (gen 2) Leshiy. I had some situations where I opened the breech to load it just short of 180 (Atlas bi-pod was attached), I'd pull the trigger without releasing the safety (forgetting to release it), and as soon as I pushed the safety to fire - it would fire!

Is this "normal" behavior? I see nothing in the user manual stating this is normal.
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Is you had fired the gun and then cocked it, but less then 180 degrees, how did the safety reset? I'm pretty sure the gun is designed so that the safety needs to be "reset" while the pressure is taken off the trigger mechanism via the cocking lug. Pretty sure you can't 1/2 cock it (less then 180) and expect to apply the safety by hand.
 
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I have only sent a few dozen pellets downrange so far with my new (gen 2) Leshiy. I had some situations where I opened the breech to load it just short of 180 (Atlas bi-pod was attached), I'd pull the trigger without releasing the safety (forgetting to release it), and as soon as I pushed the safety to fire - it would fire!

Is this "normal" behavior? I see nothing in the user manual stating this is normal.
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This is a known issue with the leshiy. 
Hopefully Ed can chime in as to why it has not been corrected?
 
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This happened to me... once. Freaked me out too. It was my bipod. It wasn’t allowing the safety to fully engage. When you push it in... if it’s just 1/2 way, you can discharge the gun by why you think is disengaging the safety. It needs to be fully engaged.

If you do the trigger mod, you can put a little spring over the sear. If you don’t do the trigger or, you can still put that spring there... it just doesn’t need to be anywhere near as long.

Step by step here: https://www.edgunleshiy.com/blog/2018/7/10/how-to-guide-edgun-leshiy-trigger-mod/

Reach out if you have questions




 
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I put a spring under the sear a little bit ago, and haven't been able to reproduce the problem (yet). Hopefully, it'll be enough to mitigate any future misfires. I'm programmed to be safe with anything that shoots, but this could have easily ended up pretty bad considering 350mm barrel and it being timed now for warp speed.

The concern now would be the spring binding up in there somehow overt time. It's a stop gap, but I'll take it.
 
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I put a spring under the sear a little bit ago, and haven't been able to reproduce the problem (yet). Hopefully, it'll be enough to mitigate any future misfires. I'm programmed to be safe with anything that shoots, but this could have easily ended up pretty bad considering 350mm barrel and it being timed now for warp speed.

The concern now would be the spring binding up in there somehow overt time. It's a stop gap, but I'll take it.
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Guessing you skipped over my question
 
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..Hate to call out a design flaw but a safety shouldn't fail unless some severe adjustments / modifications are made. That's all I'll say on the subject..
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What it looks like to me, after watching the video, is that the issue is caused by pressure on the trigger either during the cocking, or when the safety is partly applied. As the video stats "if the sear is allowed to drop slightly", the safety will not fully engage. My gun has never experience this happening during normal use. I am able (with misuse) to duplicate the problem.

If I cock my gun, then release the safety, pull the trigger to stop (I have the ball plunger mod), release trigger, reapply the safety (it only resets half way) then pull trigger again (can here a click), release trigger, push safety off......................the gun will fire. I'm certain the "click" I hear is the sear dropping off the trigger and on to the safety. This then causes the gun to fire when the safety is released.

This tells me that the issue is likely caused by pressure on the trigger either during the setting of the sear, or sometime after the gun is cocked and the safety is not fully engaged.
 
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I put a spring under the sear a little bit ago, and haven't been able to reproduce the problem (yet). Hopefully, it'll be enough to mitigate any future misfires. I'm programmed to be safe with anything that shoots, but this could have easily ended up pretty bad considering 350mm barrel and it being timed now for warp speed.

The concern now would be the spring binding up in there somehow overt time. It's a stop gap, but I'll take it.
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Guessing you skipped over my question
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Sorry, there's something funky with the HTML on this site sometimes (the quote link doesn't fire all the time and other WYSIWG issues). I did cock it nearly all the way, except for the last few degrees because of the Atlas in the way. I couldn't reproduce the situation 10% of the time, but eventually realized that when the trigger wasn't fully reset towards the muzzle, that it would be a dangerous situation.
 
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I put a spring under the sear a little bit ago, and haven't been able to reproduce the problem (yet). Hopefully, it'll be enough to mitigate any future misfires. I'm programmed to be safe with anything that shoots, but this could have easily ended up pretty bad considering 350mm barrel and it being timed now for warp speed.

The concern now would be the spring binding up in there somehow overt time. It's a stop gap, but I'll take it.
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Guessing you skipped over my question
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Sorry, there's something funky with the HTML on this site sometimes (the quote link doesn't fire all the time and other WYSIWG issues). I did cock it nearly all the way, except for the last few degrees because of the Atlas in the way. I couldn't reproduce the situation 10% of the time, but eventually realized that when the trigger wasn't fully reset towards the muzzle, that it would be a dangerous situation.
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So that means you set the safety by hand? Not proper method, it doesn't set fully that way
 
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It happened to me after I tried to apply plunger screw mod. I returned to original screw but I screw it in to far. It caused safety to fail so I had to pull back the screw just a bit. 

Some time later I cocked the gun with my finger on the trigger. It fired and shot my chrony when I pushed the safety off.

Two uncontrolled shots both my fault. 
 
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I put a spring under the sear a little bit ago, and haven't been able to reproduce the problem (yet). Hopefully, it'll be enough to mitigate any future misfires. I'm programmed to be safe with anything that shoots, but this could have easily ended up pretty bad considering 350mm barrel and it being timed now for warp speed.

The concern now would be the spring binding up in there somehow overt time. It's a stop gap, but I'll take it.
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Guessing you skipped over my question
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Sorry, there's something funky with the HTML on this site sometimes (the quote link doesn't fire all the time and other WYSIWG issues). I did cock it nearly all the way, except for the last few degrees because of the Atlas in the way. I couldn't reproduce the situation 10% of the time, but eventually realized that when the trigger wasn't fully reset towards the muzzle, that it would be a dangerous situation.
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So that means you set the safety by hand? Not proper method, it doesn't set fully that way
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No, I never set it from fire to safe by hand.
 
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