The point is not in that we can easily do it in Russia, to go to the local firefighter department, asking for filling the tank with air. I doubt that it is not possible in any country, one just need to ask politely and find the way to talk with people in a normal way
I doubt that one normal person refuse to help another normal person with such a small issue, as filling the tanks, since filling the tanks for them is a routine operation. And that is exactly what I meant!
Normal people are always able to solve any problem with other normal people!
What a reach! LOL I'm sure that if the first responders will in the middle of operations they wouldn't stop in order to fill a tank. Nor would most people ask them to. You're funny!
If question to me I can say that I use ONLY air from the local fire department, from their compressor they use for filling their tanks. Quite seldom I use my own HP compressor, but that is not that cheap Chinise one, but normal Italian's with the filters and so on, I used to bought it for 8'000 euro or something like that.
Maybe I’m not doing a good job explaining my position. It doesn’t have anything to do with ‘has this worked for some people’ or ‘could it work’? But would you honestly say the default position in the community should be to recommend random people go to the station and ask to fill a tank?
but to say, “try the fire station”, carte blanche seems like bad advice.That’s a comically uncharitable reading of “operations”, to think I was referring to them boarding a truck with the sirens blaring. Obviously it’s being used as ‘day to day operations’.
it takes about 60 seconds to fill a 45min tank at a firehouse including setup time. I don’t think it’s a hinder on the fire service for someone to ask. I think you’re thinking too far into it. All manufacturers recommend/require you to use dry air for your pcp’s. Ed is no different. If that is from a personal source like a quality compressor. So be it. But not all of us have the luxury of extra money to spend on such. The fire department is a good source of quality dry air, and I’ve never ran into someone who has had issues with their local department. The person you speak of may have had a bad experience with his department, but it is NOT the norm. Most departments in this country are volunteer, and community relations are important. We even have a system to help people fill their swimming pools with water from our tanker trucks. In turn the community is more likely to donate much needed money to keep us from using outdated Equipment or running out of supplies. I see it as a win win.Maybe I’m not doing a good job explaining my position. It doesn’t have anything to do with ‘has this worked for some people’ or ‘could it work’? But would you honestly say the default position in the community should be to recommend random people go to the station and ask to fill a tank?
I’m sympathetic to wanting to help each other deal with one of the more frustrating aspects of the hobby, but do you think this sets a good precedent? We already had someone describe their encounter doing this (in all seriousness), “They looked at me like I was a criminal”…
Maybe I’m wrong
That’s a comically uncharitable reading of “operations”, to think I was referring to them boarding a truck with the sirens blaring. Obviously it’s being used as ‘day to day operations’.
Twentynine years in public service as a police officer, reaching the rank of Deputy Chief in a very busy blue collar town. I'm well aware of "operations" as well as down time........Maybe I’m not doing a good job explaining my position. It doesn’t have anything to do with ‘has this worked for some people’ or ‘could it work’? But would you honestly say the default position in the community should be to recommend random people go to the station and ask to fill a tank?
I’m sympathetic to wanting to help each other deal with one of the more frustrating aspects of the hobby, but do you think this sets a good precedent? We already had someone describe their encounter doing this (in all seriousness), “They looked at me like I was a criminal”…
Maybe I’m wrong
That’s a comically uncharitable reading of “operations”, to think I was referring to them boarding a truck with the sirens blaring. Obviously it’s being used as ‘day to day operations’.
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@DonEnzone The powdery substance appears to be corrosion from the plenum and reservoir. This occurs when there isn’t prosper filtration on a high pressure air compressor. Quality fill sources (i.e. a dive shop, fire department, or otherwise compressed air produced by a dive quality compressor) capable of producing breathing quality air (dry air) are recommended to avoid what you see in @EDgunWest photo.What the heck is that powdery stuff? I've never seen that on mine (inside or outside). Granted, mine is barely 5 months old
I keep my L2 as dry as possible at all times. My compressor has 2 moist filters and the gun itself is always stored close to moisture absorbers.
Anodize will not help too much, plus the grooves for the O-ring anyhow should be free of anodize to avoid leaking.
I would guess that your filter in a link is good as a second stage only to remove a "taste" for a breathable air.
