Leak on my FX Streamline

Well, at least you know how to get to that point right before the valve. Two things tho, that guy on the video checked if there was any air left on the system by making a few dry shots, not recomended at all. If you shoot the rifle with no air behind the valve you can damage it since there is no resistance on the other side and the valve may over travel, to make it safe i'd do what Ernest did on the minute 5:03 on this video.

https://youtu.be/uh6KfG-LnLI

Just open the valve manually.

And the second thing. Shoot Chuck a message on this forum, i'm sure he's gonna be glad to help you out and he know's more about streamlines than me.

https://www.airgunnation.com/members/chuck/

And once again, let me know if you have any further questions.

Manuel
 
Yes Mr. Barreira, I am glad to help you find the air leak in your FX Streamline, but I will answer your private question publicly on the forum so others my benefit from the information. There is no charge but please make sure you give me one green ball for helping you...sorry that's a joke.

😂 Ok, first let me say there are only a couple places on a Streamline where you can get an air leak, and these can be checked very easily by putting a little soapy water on to see if there are any bubbles. However, there is one place where the possible leak is not so easy to detect, which is at the valve pin. 

Lets eliminate the easy ones first by putting some soapy water on them... check where the air gauge screws into the front end cap on the air tube (G12 5003 Plastic Bushing 4mm) ; next check where the front end cap screws into the air tube (G9 19485 O-ring 23,0x2,5 NBR 70 and G10 & G11 19484 O-ring 24,0x2,4 NBR 70); next check where the air tube screws onto the rear end cap that is attached to the breech block (B5 19485 O-ring 23x2,5 NBR 70). Assuming you have no leaks at any of those three places lets check the vent hole in the side of the air tube towards the rear. 

If any of those first three places are blowing bubbles you can eliminate the leak by installing a new o-ring of the proper size. These are listed on the FX Streamline parts diagram. If your vent hole in the side of the air tube is blowing bubbles then you replace both of the o-rings on the outside of the regulator sleeve (G2 19514 Distance Regulator).

http://www.fxairguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Streamline-Exploded-drawing-pdf.pdf 

This brings us the last place you can have an air leak on your Streamline... the valve pin. There is a little itty bitty teeny tiny o-ring on the front of the valve pin that needs to be replaced from time to time from wear, but they break sometimes and can cause an air leak. They are not even listed on the parts diagram, but I will give you the correct information so you can order some from FXUSA. These little o-rings are Item #2528 - 1.5mm x 1 NBR70 - $.77 each + shipping.

Here is how to remove the valve pin to check the little o-ring on the front of it: Let the air out of the gun by unscrewing the air gauge 1/2 turn or so using a very thin 11mm open end wrench (you may have to grind one down). Next, unscrew the air tube and remove it and lay it aside. Next look down inside the breech block where you took off the air tube and you will see a little silver disk with holes all around it and an Allen hole in the center...use a 3mm Allen wrench (if I remember correctly) to remove the silver disk. Then using a stout pair of needle nose pliers pull the valve pin out. Replace the little o-ring and reinstall the valve pin by placing it in the hole you removed it from. You will have to put quite a bit of pressure on it to get it to pop in and seat down all the way. I recommend you use a tiny drop of silicone oil or grease on the little o-ring to help it slip in. It is a tight fit! The easiest way I have found to seat it is to get it started in the hole and then using something like a hinge pin or drift punch and a ball peen hammer I give it a good tap to seat it...and that is how I do it. 

Then simply put your gun back together the way you took it apart. The one last o-ring I would replace while your at it is the breech o-ring. This should keep you busy for awhile...let me know how it goes. My last advice? Take your time and be patient with yourself...this is all very easy so don't turn it into something hard. If all else fails I will let you ship me the gun and I will fix it for you. And don't forget my green balls! :) 

All the best, Chuck




 
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Today I've bought a full set of o'rings for my FX Streamline. All the o'rings mentioned in the parts list aswell the fill probe, valve pin and valve seat are included. It cost me 4€.

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Yes the breech o-ring is the one just inside the brass barrel inlet…C1 – 6,35 4526 O-ring 6,4×1,3 NBR 70,,, on the Streamline parts diagram Section C shows the brass barrel inlet as a separate piece from the barrel & this is the o-ring that goes there to prevent air from coming out backwards when you fire each shot. Here is a link to the parts diagram for you...

http://www.fxairguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Streamline-Exploded-drawing-pdf.pdf
 
Once in awhile you will have to replace your breech o-ring because they get worn out or even worse sometimes they break causing about a 50 ft/s loss of pellet velocity…it can drive you crazy trying to figure out why unless you know what to look for. So it is a good idea to keep some extra breech o-rings on hand. If you get a dramatic loss of power this is the first thing you should check.
 
Just remove your barrel unscrewing the bolts on top of the reciver and using an oring pick carefully remove it (right on the pellet probe side of the barrel, about 0.5cm in). Then place the new one in with the help of the same oring pick and put the barrel back on making sure it's all aligned as it previously was (by completly removing one of the bolts and aligning the markins on the barrel with the slot where the bolt goes). Hope you got me, if not just ask. 

Regards, M
 
Hi Phildog59, yes I will tell you how I do it...first buy a set of picks from an auto parts store...use one to remove the old breech o-ring, then I push one of my long one piece coated cleaning rods down the bore until it is just at the position where the o-ring goes. So then as I put the o-ring in the breech groove where its supposed to go I keep the tip of the rod there to prevent it from getting cattywompus on me...with a little practice you can insert a new breech o-ring in a blink! :) I personally believe in changing mine fairly regularly...
 
Update:

Well, I was wrong. It's not leaking through the barrel. I've done the test with soapy water. No leaks revealed. But it's leaking an average of 3-5 bar a day.

The previuos owner was a little bit sloppy, and when I got it it was full of dirt/dust.

I bet it's something in the valve...

I also found out that when I shot it's coming air from the breech.

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Ha Ha yes they can be a pain in the butt to change...and it never gets easier! Sort of makes you wonder why they don't just make a small groove in the pellet probe for the o-ring...this would make them so much easier to change and easier access would allow us to inspect that critical o-ring for wear or damage more often. Many times guys think they are having a regulator problem when in fact it is the breech o-ring that's causing the problem. It can easily cause a 20-30 ft/s drop in velocity if it is worn out, and a 50 ft/s drop in velocity if it is broken. 

Now move on to replacing the little o-ring on the valve pin. This is another one that is a pain in the butt and so most guys don't check or replace this one often enough...if ever! In case nobody told you this, let me tell you that these pcp air rifles need regular maintenance like any other finely tuned machine...and the o-rings are their Achilles heel!