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In farm ponds, turtles undoubtedly compete with fish for natural food sources such as crayfish and insects. Turtles, however, are valuable because they kill diseased and weakened fish, and clean up dead or decaying animal matter. When their numbers are high, as in hundreds in a 10 acre pond, its best to thin them out, but I wouldn't eradicate all of them. As in most species control is the key. For instance our state regulates the taking of whitetail deer. We have had seasons on the past decades where one could only shoot three a season and years where the limit was a deer per day! Pond management is important like any other resource. The real hard job is the lilly pads! I've really been annihilating them. : ) Haha
 
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One man's pet is another man's pest. I personally believe that a property owner should have the right to control the animals on his property. Now, if he was shooting through the shell, I wouldn't like that the animal needlessly suffered.

I personally wouldn't shoot turtles, but that's me. If we all think it through, why is it alright to shoot starlings but not Robins? Because starlings don't look or act in a way we like. I'll tell you why, because some government official decided so. In Louisiana, we are almost overrun by Canadian geese, but some lawmaker who doesn't have them in his yard, said I should let them chew up mine. I sat outside today waiting for starlings. They stayed in the neighbors yard. But I was surrounded by turtledoves. I would personally never shoot any dove, period. Doves represent peace to me. But I'm fine with and watch videos of others that hunt them and it matters not if they eat them or throw them to the cats.

Not a rant, just an opinion. Btw, good vid.
 
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"Jlands"One man's pet is another man's pest. I personally believe that a property owner should have the right to control the animals on his property. Now, if he was shooting through the shell, I wouldn't like that the animal needlessly suffered.

I personally wouldn't shoot turtles, but that's me. If we all think it through, why is it alright to shoot starlings but not Robins? Because starlings don't look or act in a way we like. I'll tell you why, because some government official decided so. In Louisiana, we are almost overrun by Canadian geese, but some lawmaker who doesn't have them in his yard, said I should let them chew up mine. I sat outside today waiting for starlings. They stayed in the neighbors yard. But I was surrounded by turtledoves. I would personally never shoot any dove, period. Doves represent peace to me. But I'm fine with and watch videos of others that hunt them and it matters not if they eat them or throw them to the cats.

Not a rant, just an opinion. Btw, good vid.
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Thats not the real reason starlings, house sparrows and collard doves are open season. They are invasive species. There are plenty of native animals that dont behave but are protected.
 
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"blackdiesel"Thanks for the explanation. I guess there are many different problem species in many regions.
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Sure thing! At my last house we were over run with squirrels and I got permission from the police dept. to use the pellet rifle to thin them out. (In town). At this 8.5 acres plus a 10 acre pond ( in the county) I haven't shot a single squirrel. We have several Redtail Hawks that work on them well. It's awesome to see them catch one. We have owls too, but I haven't seen them in action. The pond had been neglected for quite some time and I'm getting it in good shape. It's not cheap to manage one properly with feed, fertilizer, fishing weed removal etc. including turtles. 
 
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First, just giving an opinion and conversation.


invasive species....... I understand what the law says. What I'm saying is who gets to decide. We all know about the Asian carp. Some places allow killing with dynamite. Do you really think that would be allowed if that was fresh water dolphins somebody illegally brought in and they began to over populate.
20 years ago, Canadian geese would "almost" never be in Louisiana in August. Now our local park has over 300 permanent year round geese and we have no legal way to get rid of them. This is the Louisiana game season for geese.
CANADA GEESE:
Coastal Zone: (76 days) Nov. 5 – Dec. 4; Dec. 17 – Jan. 31
West Zone: (76 days) Nov. 5 – Dec. 4; Dec. 17 – Jan. 31
East Zone: (76 days) Nov. 5 – Dec. 4; Dec. 17 – Jan. 31
Daily Limit on Canada geese: 1 per day
Possession limit on Canada geese: 3

Because even if in season, you can't hunt in a park or neighborhood or subdivision. WHERE THEY LIVE. They don't live in the woods with predators to get them, they stay in our subdivision where theyll be safe.....protected by the LAW. Btw, I really don't like these things. Nobody down here does. They poop in the street. Tear up lawns and gold courses. If they were moved to invasive, they would be gone from Louisiana in a month tops.
 
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"Jlands"... our local park has over 300 permanent year round geese and we have no legal way to get rid of them. 
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Oh my gosh! We could help each other! Turtles also eat ducklings and goslings. I could send Louisiana all my excess turtles. But wait, alligators eat turtles! Maybe some guys from Florida could send me some! Oh darn! But then I would have no need for this FX, because I already have a great hole punch for paper. All in jest! I could trap the turtles just as well, but since their numbers do need reduction I have no issue enjoying the method. I'm sure there are more effective means of reducing starlings also. Nothing is quite as critical now as mosquitoes. Zika virus is really scary. I think I'll try shooting skeeters. Since TonTon Doogy can hit flies maybe It'll work. Hahaha : )
 
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We shoot Eurasia collard doves and pigeons here on the dairy farms. The numbers of birds are probably in the ten thousand on some farms. They eat tens of thousands of dollars worth of feed each year and they cap everywhere causing water contamination for the livestock.some are almost 2 times the size of the local dove. We have no limit on them and 1 person can shoot hundreds in a day and not make a dent. In the more urban areas they fly off at night and roost in the local developments causing lots of roof damage etc. Look at what the invasive iguana are doing to puerto rico. Most invasive species multiply quickly they may not have much in the way of predators controlling their population so the numbers can become overwhelming.
 
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See, bottom line... Government has too much power. They can regulate public land, fine. But a private property owner, as long as he is not baiting or luring animals, should be able to dispatch them as he sees fit. Some places, if you have a bear or dangerous aminal breaking your door down, you suppose to give them the right away and could be charged if you bring harm to it.


How many bears should I be able to kill in public woods.... What ever the law says.

How many bears should I be able to kill in my back yard........ As many as I say.
 
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