Trying to figure out what barrel will shoot these to 100 yards. ART barrels maybe? I got quite a few of them in hopes my 510 would like them but hell no, not even close. Im about to buy a redwolf and wondered if anyone had luck with them. Thanks!
Jsb .177 beast, anyone?
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My understanding is that they fall apart not far past 50 yards, maybe 70 or so but then its also it.
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A slow twist like the LW polygonal 1:36 groups them very well at long distance.
https://www.lothar-walther.com/1515/airgun-blank-stainless-choked-twist-36.177-air-polygon-od.63-l-23.82?c=273
https://www.lothar-walther.com/1515/airgun-blank-stainless-choked-twist-36.177-air-polygon-od.63-l-23.82?c=273
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Shoot em @ 960 out of a LW 12 g no choke. Outstanding accuracy for a .177 pellet. 100Y is a stretch tho for any match quality consistency.
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Out to about 45 metrs they are very good in a Daystate Revere. From here they loose spindrift quickly and accuracy is horrible.
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Sorry Bud ... was able to snag 10 tins a while back from Tomcat and gone threw 3/4 of them. Going to be looking for more myself shortly.
UGG ... ammo shortage now in effect for air guns too ... Damn !!!
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Yes sir Scott, I've been on the list so long at Trenier's , I wuz beginning to think they forgot about me ;-)
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My wife won the 2018 EBR 50 yd event against 120 of us and only 1 other 177. That was an out of the box RW HP with the LW poly. I struggled with it to find a velocity where it was predictable at 100, though. Somewhere after 75 yds it seemed to lose stability and pushing it to 980 helped, just not enough. I haven't tried the 1 in 36 that Nervoustrig recommends... perhaps that's the answer. At 50 yards it is EASY to shoot with high precision... possibly our most accurate rifle. The 12 groove seems like it would lower the bc at high velocity , but again, haven't tried it.
It's also interesting that in good conditions, her 18 ft lb Wolverine with 10.34s is still holding it together at 150 yds. Any breeze is quite difficult though.
I also had incredible results at 100 and 150 with the 20.2 gn NSA out of that barrel but takes everything a RW HP had to push it to the 900 area in stock form.
Bob
It's also interesting that in good conditions, her 18 ft lb Wolverine with 10.34s is still holding it together at 150 yds. Any breeze is quite difficult though.
I also had incredible results at 100 and 150 with the 20.2 gn NSA out of that barrel but takes everything a RW HP had to push it to the 900 area in stock form.
Bob
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Arz, just FYI I took a look back and it seems like it was around 2015 when long range shooters began to put together that the 13.4gr Monsters and 16.2gr Beasts benefit from a slower twist than is typical of most airgun barrels. From what I recall, the original Smooth Twist barrels and their super slow twist rates kept them from going haywire at long distances.
I did a little digging and found a few threads that reference success with slower twist rates...
Mike Niksch of Thomas speaking of the 1:36 LW polygonal and 1:24 Lilja:
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=97648.msg913007#msg913007
Linzie on the benchrest.com forum:
http://benchrest.com/showthread.php?91765-Jsb-16-2-beast-in-high-power-long-ranger-with-lilja-177
Bob speaking of Tom at American Air Arms using slower twist rates to improve long range accuracy:
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=124548.msg1215920#msg1215920
And a recent thread with comments from Mike:
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=179366.msg156043357#msg156043357
I did a little digging and found a few threads that reference success with slower twist rates...
Mike Niksch of Thomas speaking of the 1:36 LW polygonal and 1:24 Lilja:
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=97648.msg913007#msg913007
Linzie on the benchrest.com forum:
http://benchrest.com/showthread.php?91765-Jsb-16-2-beast-in-high-power-long-ranger-with-lilja-177
Bob speaking of Tom at American Air Arms using slower twist rates to improve long range accuracy:
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=124548.msg1215920#msg1215920
And a recent thread with comments from Mike:
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=179366.msg156043357#msg156043357
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My Daystate Wolverine R HP at 920 F.P.S. with a poly barrel is very accurate to 75 yards. I have three rifles with 12 grove L.W. barrels that shoot 945 to 965 that are not quite as accurate. I have never shot any of them past 75 yards.
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