If you find 7lbs heavy you need to step away from the keyboard and get some exercise. Dont even get me started on that ugly plastic stock.
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Is the Pulsar Dead on the Water?
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If you find 7lbs heavy you need to step away from the keyboard and get some exercise. Dont even get me started on that ugly plastic stock.
"Ugly plastic stock". Are you referring to the Pulsar? Seems it has two nice laminate stocks available in addition to the "ugly plastic". Appearance, which seems to be the most subjective aspect of the gun, can be varied through choice of one of those laminated stocks instead of the plastic.
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I like the look... IMHO, for the money, I'd skip the Pulsar and go with the Renegade. Same trigger, same barrel, same accuracy, same look, etc. You just don't have the electronic firing control system, and instead its mechanical like most other airguns.
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IMHO, the Pulsar/RW platform is far superior to the Renegade.
Both have nice triggers, but the electronic valve control is awesome - very tight velocity SD's.
Both have nice triggers, but the electronic valve control is awesome - very tight velocity SD's.
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The appearance doesn't bother me in the least either. Different absolutely but not a problem. I didn't think the Renegade had an electronic trigger ("same trigger") but the electronic system in the Pulsar is what interests me the most. That could be a mistake over the long run, or not, but if it weren't for that electronic system then many other rifles would interest me as much. The Evanix Max Air (fully air driven) interests me as well.
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Hi Fred, have you ever owned a Renegade? I'd be willing to bet the ES on a regulated Renegade with the Huma reg. is lower than the ES on a Pulsar/RW. I've owned three Renegades, and even without a reg. the ES was under 20 FPS. When I added a Huma to my Renegade (before you could buy the version with the Huma), my ES was always under 10 FPS for a 40 shot string, and most of the time around 5 or 6 FPS. I'm pretty sure the Pulsar/RW doesn't come in with an ES as good as that. Not that it makes much difference in accuracy as long as its under 15-ish, but since you pointed it out that it was superior, I thought I'd give my two cents based on experience, not supposition and conjecture... I recognize that it is your opinion, and you are certainly entitled to it...
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I didn't think the Renegade had an electronic trigger ("same trigger") but the electronic system in the Pulsar is what interests me the most.
- Yes, electronic trigger same as Pulsar and RW.
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Hi Fred, have you ever owned a Renegade? I'd be willing to bet the ES on a regulated Renegade with the Huma reg. is lower than the ES on a Pulsar/RW. I've owned three Renegades, and even without a reg. the ES was under 20 FPS. When I added a Huma to my Renegade (before you could buy the version with the Huma), my ES was always under 10 FPS for a 40 shot string, and most of the time around 5 or 6 FPS. I'm pretty sure the Pulsar/RW doesn't come in with an ES as good as that. Not that it makes much difference in accuracy as long as its under 15-ish, but since you pointed it out that it was superior, I thought I'd give my two cents based on experience, not supposition and conjecture... I recognize that it is your opinion, and you are certainly entitled to it...
@bandg
I didn't think the Renegade had an electronic trigger ("same trigger") but the electronic system in the Pulsar is what interests me the most.
- Yes, electronic trigger same as Pulsar and RW.
Thanks to both you and Fred for the Daystate information. I just read the HAM review of the Renegade. Indeed as you note, electronic trigger but mechanical air control (electronic trigger solenoid to operate a mechanical "trigger arm" I assume). What caught my eye in that article was that reviewer Pete Shooter was noted to be a Pulsar owner but wrote in his notes that the Renegade was the best bullpup he'd ever shot. Always something to learn.
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I have to confess I've never shot a Renegade, just dry fire a few times at shows.
I was initially thinking of buying one but everyone I talked to at the time said to get the Pulsar.
I love my Pulsar - within 50 yards, I think I'm better with it than my RW-HP.
So happy camper here, but no, I've never shot a Renegade.
I was initially thinking of buying one but everyone I talked to at the time said to get the Pulsar.
I love my Pulsar - within 50 yards, I think I'm better with it than my RW-HP.
So happy camper here, but no, I've never shot a Renegade.
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As noted, all very good information and appreciated. Looks like as far as one Daystate over the other (at least in this comparison), choosing one over the other may be difficult. In any event, seem like you both have excellent rifles and I bet you'll both enjoy the "ugly" things. 
Planning to have one or the other for myself soon.
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Probably can’t go wrong with either. For the price of a Pulsar you can buy a Renegade and a very nice scope...
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As noted, all very good information and appreciated. Looks like as far as one Daystate over the other (at least in this comparison), choosing one over the other may be difficult. In any event, seem like you both have excellent rifles and I bet you'll both enjoy the "ugly" things.
I own both a Pulsar and a Renegade and the Pulsar comes out ahead IMO. The Pulsar has 3 power levels, the Renegade has only one. The Renegade is unregulated so accuracy and consistency are better in the Pulsar. The Renegade's rear mechanical cocking feels heavy and stiff, while the Pulsar's is totally effortless and smooth as silk.
If you can afford it, I'd go with the Pulsar.
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As noted, all very good information and appreciated. Looks like as far as one Daystate over the other (at least in this comparison), choosing one over the other may be difficult. In any event, seem like you both have excellent rifles and I bet you'll both enjoy the "ugly" things.
I own both a Pulsar and a Renegade and the Pulsar comes out ahead IMO. The Pulsar has 3 power levels, the Renegade has only one. The Renegade is unregulated so accuracy and consistency are better in the Pulsar. The Renegade's rear mechanical cocking feels heavy and stiff, while the Pulsar's is totally effortless and smooth as silk.
If you can afford it, I'd go with the Pulsar.
Good information from an owner of both. The cocking position is a bit unusual being so near the ear so easier cocking could certainly be a large advantage and might stress the mechanism less over time. Does the Renegade have any type of hammer/hammer spring adjustability for tuning? Also, I have not seen a regulated Renegade (mentioned as available by Centercut and apparently listed as Renegade HR according to Daystate site) available for sale at AOA or at Krale. Possibly special order? The more I consider it, the cocking factor seems pretty important. Thanks to all for the information.
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Good info guys, thanks. I started this thread not because I am interested in buying this gun, but rather out of sheer curiosity and observations I make. I visit the various websites often and look at pricing, etc. The Pulsar has just skyrocketed in price in my opinion, I remember it being a bit more affordable. Yet, there is no mention of it for quite a while in the forum. Nor have I seen one being offered for sale in the Classifieds.
As for the Renegade, I it has always intrigued me more than the Pulsar as far as owning one. Probably in .177 and likely not regulated. However, I did notice the same thing for a while now the HR has been a thing on the Daystate webpage, yet AoA does not list them. These also are more expensive these days and hardly anyone mentions them.
As for the Renegade, I it has always intrigued me more than the Pulsar as far as owning one. Probably in .177 and likely not regulated. However, I did notice the same thing for a while now the HR has been a thing on the Daystate webpage, yet AoA does not list them. These also are more expensive these days and hardly anyone mentions them.
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I have a .22 Laminated HP with Custom 12 memories board . The gun is incredible, beautiful and super accurate . For sure on of the best PCPs ever.
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I would say not many topics on Pulsar because it has almost no problems at all.
Nothing to complaint
I have .25 Pulsar for two years, all I have to do - fill the air and reload magazines, no maintenance whatsoever.
It works any time and every time.
It's on a heavier side - yes, but when I shoulder that, it's not an issue, it's very stable. I'm shooting around my house, don't have to carry for a half-day.
Ugly - ohh well it's all about preferences, not the sexiest for sure.
Accurate - no questions.
Quiet - even without a silencer, mouse fart quiet.
Lazer - not a gimmick for me, very helpful at the night time.
Electronic trigger - I didn't have anything better than that, extremely smooth.
Electronic display - amazing, I always know shot count, pressure and most important after the last pellet in the magazine it vibrates, you know you have to reload, no dry fire.
Overall I'm very satisfied, had a very rough spring and was short on money was about to sell Pulsar, so glad I didn't.
Actually I'm really surprised why it's not as popular as Wolf, it's a same platform, with laminate stock is not ugly at all.
Just my 2c.
Nothing to complaint
I have .25 Pulsar for two years, all I have to do - fill the air and reload magazines, no maintenance whatsoever.
It works any time and every time.
It's on a heavier side - yes, but when I shoulder that, it's not an issue, it's very stable. I'm shooting around my house, don't have to carry for a half-day.
Ugly - ohh well it's all about preferences, not the sexiest for sure.
Accurate - no questions.
Quiet - even without a silencer, mouse fart quiet.
Lazer - not a gimmick for me, very helpful at the night time.
Electronic trigger - I didn't have anything better than that, extremely smooth.
Electronic display - amazing, I always know shot count, pressure and most important after the last pellet in the magazine it vibrates, you know you have to reload, no dry fire.
Overall I'm very satisfied, had a very rough spring and was short on money was about to sell Pulsar, so glad I didn't.
Actually I'm really surprised why it's not as popular as Wolf, it's a same platform, with laminate stock is not ugly at all.
Just my 2c.
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