Air Venturi Interesting Avenge X shot string

Avenge X tube version. HN Field Target Trophy pellets at 20 gr. Reg set (I think) at 150B. Transfer port set to LO. Started at full fill of 300B and ended the shot string at 120B.
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I have always questioned the regulator in this gun. I only plink at 25 yards in the backyard so no reputation or money is on the line here. When I set the reg, I degas and then slowly bring it up to 150B - that gives me good accuracy with the 25 grain pellets at 910 FPS - and leave it. When I go to shoot, the reg is always at 165B. This drops after the first shot but the regulator pressure is always dropping as I shoot. Today I wanted to see what would happen with the transfer port on low with the lighter weight pellets. 100+ shots were all hitting where aimed but doesn't the graph look like an unregulated gun where the first shots are low because the hammer can't overcome the pressure; then you hit a zone where things kind of flatten out because the drop in pressure gets the hammer happy; and finally the velocity falloff when the speed is just being dictated by the pressure.

With an SD of less than three over 100+ shots I'm not unhappy but it just doesn't seem like the regulator is working great or maybe not at all. Again, all I do is shoot at clay pigeons in the back yard and then keep shooting pieces until I have dust. Over this string every shot was hitting POA consistently so maybe I just shut up and forget about it. Using the HI transfer port setting with the 25 grain pellets I get the same kind of curve with a little higher SD and a 60 shot count before the velocity really starts to drop.

I'm just looking for any opinions. In my mind, regulation means a constant pressure to a fairly high degree at the plenum until the tank pressure gets below the reg setting and the velocity drops. I suppose this could also be some sort of a tuning thing but I've gone over that by adjusting to the knee and backing off a bit and I do see pretty good accuracy with decent SD numbers.

Tony
 
Trucker,

There is certainly more than an even chance that I am blowing this out of proportion. With the TP on HI and using decent 25 grain pellets at an average of 910 fps, I'll see 50 shot SD's around 4.0. Decent accuracy there. At 50 yards I've had a few groups at 0.25" CTC but most hover around that 0.4-0.5 CTC range. Pretty good for what the gun is.

It could also be here that maybe by shutting down the TP, the hammer spring may need a different adjustment.

As I said, as a backyard plinker at 25 yards, the gun is great! I can smash up those clay birds and hit really tint pieces with boring regularity. I'll just keep shooting it and forget about the numbers.

Tony
 
The first shot or two being off in velocity really isn’t uncommon. Even in more expensive pcps. When looking at SD I would not count the first cpl shots that allow the reg to settle. Maybe try slowly tweaking the hammer spring once the reg has settled and see if you can find a small spot the gun really likes at the given reg pressure, where it gets really consistent. In determining how good or bad the reg is you will just have to see how long does the gun have to sit before the reg creeps enough to vastly change the velocity.
 
Ding,

I have 25 yards in my backyard and do most of my airgun shooting there. I had never tried using the LO transfer port setting and wanted to see the action there. I had the gun set up for the 25 grain pellets but also wanted to see just what the velocity would be with the lighter pellets. I started thinking about the hammer spring after I made that first post. It does, indeed, look like there may be a mismatch with the restricted transfer port. I’ll try adjusting that this weekend.

Wendell - I’ll give the regulator O-ring swap a try.

Thanks for the input!

Tony
 
Dingens,

Today I adjusted the HS on my 25 grain pellets with the HI TP setting It did take a bit more HS to get to the knee than I had previously. I only fired maybe 26 shots with the 25 grain pellets just to see if the HS could use some tweaking. The HS was turned in 3/4 of a turn. My SD was around 3 and that is better than I usually see. I then went back to the light pellets and the LO transfer port setting to see what would happen. Turned out pretty good. Got 45 shots in (ran out of pellets) with an SD of 2.05. I had a couple of low FPS shots in the string near the end where I could have been falling off the reg and if I calc the SD up to that point, it was 1.74.

I'm real happy with this. The reason I like the light pellet/LO TP set up is for my backyard shooting. getting 100+ shots out of that is great for me with a lot less refilling the gun. I'll have to get more of the 20 grain pellets and do another full run until I fall off the reg to get the stats on that.

Good advice!

Tony
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