Impact .25 50 yards after sorting by weights
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Impressive!
I'm a hunter more than a paper puncher. But you've adequately demonstrated the value of pellet weighing and sorting by weight if I want single hole groups out of my air rifle. Now to find a proper scale for a reasonable price.
I'd like to have video capabilities too, primarily for the purpose of observing my pellets in flight to aid in tuning my gun. Still searching for the best video camera/mount setup.
Thanks for the video.
BeemanR7
I'm a hunter more than a paper puncher. But you've adequately demonstrated the value of pellet weighing and sorting by weight if I want single hole groups out of my air rifle. Now to find a proper scale for a reasonable price.
I'd like to have video capabilities too, primarily for the purpose of observing my pellets in flight to aid in tuning my gun. Still searching for the best video camera/mount setup.
Thanks for the video.
BeemanR7
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Birdslayer25. Glad you are liking the Impact. Pretty nice....now what if I told you that it can be tighter than that. I am a true believer in aim small, hit small. This is what I do for accuracy; key is consistency, repetition and eliminate all variables.
Step 1, acquire this target or similar.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Eze-Scorer-12-Sight-In-Paper-Target-13-targets/26969562
Most important thing to note is that all the bulls have both the vertical and horizontal lines crossing the POA. This is key! Set up your target down range with a bubble level. Step 2, set up your rifle and scope to be perfectly level. As long as your rifle and scope are level and set up properly, you will not need a bubble level on your scope.
Step 3. Line up your reticle to the lines on the target. Now you are dead on, once you zero. There is no guessing/estimating where the exact center is. Once you line up, you are dead on.
Here's the most important part to this whole process. You never lose your POA.....NEVER! Imagine this, you are shooting at your target, you wind up with a jagged hole, you POA is all drilled out. What are you aiming at now? A mental image, a guestimation of where the bull is, approximately. Then next thing you know the group opens up because you have no exact POA. With these steps your POA is always intact and exact. Use those lines.
Hope this helps. Shoot safe.
Boombots out
Step 1, acquire this target or similar.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Eze-Scorer-12-Sight-In-Paper-Target-13-targets/26969562
Most important thing to note is that all the bulls have both the vertical and horizontal lines crossing the POA. This is key! Set up your target down range with a bubble level. Step 2, set up your rifle and scope to be perfectly level. As long as your rifle and scope are level and set up properly, you will not need a bubble level on your scope.
Step 3. Line up your reticle to the lines on the target. Now you are dead on, once you zero. There is no guessing/estimating where the exact center is. Once you line up, you are dead on.
Here's the most important part to this whole process. You never lose your POA.....NEVER! Imagine this, you are shooting at your target, you wind up with a jagged hole, you POA is all drilled out. What are you aiming at now? A mental image, a guestimation of where the bull is, approximately. Then next thing you know the group opens up because you have no exact POA. With these steps your POA is always intact and exact. Use those lines.
Hope this helps. Shoot safe.
Boombots out
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I have not seen an unsorted comparision so how can you tell Beeman? If there is wind, that will have more effect than the sorting believe me.
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This is the group on the right you can see it in the first video. This group was actually my first group i shot. I wasnt paying attention my bottle pressure was at like 150 bar. Towards the end of this group i was off the reg. I have 20 tins of mk2 incoming i have a lot of work to do.
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I am out of pellets I had just enough to do my videos today. I have a case of mk2 coming in the mail. Ill do a comparison as soon as i get my shipment. Why are you so skeptical on the hole pellet weights effecting accuracy?
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in my experience (it means i wasted many hours doing it too) the weight variation has little to do with precision/groups size.
i have spent more on pellets and brand testing than on a barrel, where the barrel was the culprit (in my case). it is still fun to test pellets.
do not be a fool to think that you can fix a PCP precision just by messing around with pellet weights. it is a minor factor.
i have spent more on pellets and brand testing than on a barrel, where the barrel was the culprit (in my case). it is still fun to test pellets.
do not be a fool to think that you can fix a PCP precision just by messing around with pellet weights. it is a minor factor.
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Very nice shooting...I never bothered sorting as I only use jsb pellets. Yes I know, but usually I spot or feel an issue when loading pellets into mags. I'm not as particular as most buy maybe that needs to change.
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My mind is blown..... how do you think almost a 2 grain difference in pellet weight isnt gonna effect accuracy? Just crazy thinking if you ask me. Its proven to me ill always do it. My impact is a shooter but sorting by weight has improved my accuracy night and day. I dont have them fliers as i did before. Fliers are that pellet thats 2 grains bigger than the rest. In smaller calibers you dont notice as much weight variation. I measure tins of .22 cal 18 and 16 grainers and they have a much better spread than the heavier .25 ammo. I cant imagine .30 pellets its prolly pushing 3 grains who knows.
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Thanks Birdslayer for taking the time and trouble to make these videos and share your insights and discoveries. I wish I could afford to make videos but not in my budget. I would like you to make a couple targets by taking a sheet of printer paper and making a cross on it with a straightedge and black marker. Then at 50 yards overlay the target cross with your scope crosshairs, then fire a shot to see where it hits. Then I want you to adjust your elevation and windage so your pellets are hitting the paper about 1" high and 1" left of the cross on the paper. Now shoot five shot groups at new targets like the first one...always keeping your scope crosshairs centered on the target cross. You are going to be amazed! Please shoot some pellets that have been weighed to within a tenth of a grain of each other at some targets, and then shoot some pellets straight from the can. Please videotape shooting both kinds of pellets so we can see the difference. By the way, I am guessing that the camera shaking you are experiencing is due to recoil from the Impact. Thanks for your good work and for sharing it with us!
All the best, Chuck
All the best, Chuck
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Sirk it's no wonder you keep getting those - marks guy, LOL. I have also done testing and it's posted here. I found little difference at 50 yards with my Airwolf .25. I think the FX's are inherently more accurate. What did really surprise me was cleaning, weighing AND lubing with slick 50-1. I shot a sub MOA at 100 yards last weekend. I have been practicing at 80-100 yards for several weeks and it's paying off!
That video was pretty sweet being able to see the round go through the hole! I feels real good walk up to that target and know the pellets really did go through that sub dime size hole yes!
I also buy into aim small miss small analogy , When I shoot at the range I use .25 colored stationary dots I get at Walmart at 50 yards (can't see them past that). At X16 I have to control my breathing and time the trigger pull to my heartbeat. LOVE this freaking game!
Well done Birdslayer.
That video was pretty sweet being able to see the round go through the hole! I feels real good walk up to that target and know the pellets really did go through that sub dime size hole yes!
I also buy into aim small miss small analogy , When I shoot at the range I use .25 colored stationary dots I get at Walmart at 50 yards (can't see them past that). At X16 I have to control my breathing and time the trigger pull to my heartbeat. LOVE this freaking game!
Well done Birdslayer.
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Ill do all that testing just as soon as I get more pellets. PA is out of MK2 right now. Doesnt look like they will have them anytime soon either. I can assure you guys that i was holding steady as possible on target. My poor editing skills make it seem as if im kinda aiming high or low from shot to shot. I do my editing on my camera and its a long process. I need a lap top with some kinda video editor. But holding steady on target is my # 1 priority when shooting for groups. I use a atlas Bipod 5-h and a sand bag. But there will be more to come as soon as i get more ammo.
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Yea I just ordered 10 cans of the MKII from Airguns of Arizona because I am down to just two cans...makes me nervous! 
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Great shooting! You should aim at the corner of the box, I bet you would shrink the size some.
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