I'm Still Stuck In NY. Any Attorneys In AGN? Need Advice On Adding An LDC

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I wish that was the case here but it's not what Alphabet org and NYS SafeAct dept said this morning.

The Alphabet org does not consider airguns firearms so that’s moot. The NYS DEC “does” consider airguns as “firearms” when use for hunting, hence the nebulous line... again specific links to your assertions would be welcomed.
 
Nah, it's a bullpup. I bought it because its compact. Its beautiful and dont want to mess it up. It was my first PCP. I just didn't know it was going to sound like a cannon going off in my backyard. It doesn't help I share my property with a school either. 

I will just have to run a chop saw the days I use it to sound like I'm doing construction here or something.

I will also search for a real quite out of the factory, big bore semi automatic. If you know of any, please share since I'm in the market for one. 
 
I am not sure of your situation but Airforce ss might fit. One thing to note these Big bores are not Back Yard friendly even the 308 ss sounds close to a framing nailer when shot and the impact is loud also Add to that the power these produce you need to be Darn careful about your backstop 

Big Bores are for shooting at ranges and open country I don’t even shoot mine in my backyard and the nearest house down the line is over an acre away 
 
Nah, it's a bullpup. I bought it because its compact. Its beautiful and dont want to mess it up. It was my first PCP. I just didn't know it was going to sound like a cannon going off in my backyard. It doesn't help I share my property with a school either. 

I will just have to run a chop saw the days I use it to sound like I'm doing construction here or something.

I will also search for a real quite out of the factory, big bore semi automatic. If you know of any, please share since I'm in the market for one.

I would either consider moving away from a shared SCHOOL? property or back the power down a lot (throw on a weaker hammer spring and start with a lower fill pressure if it's not regulated) to make the gun a lot quieter since you probably don't want to be shooting high or even medium power anyway on a SCHOOL? property.
 
A suppressor of any kind, even built for an airgun only, even with it's own proprietary thread is a felony to possess if it wasn't affixed permanently to the gun PRIOR to the purchase, is what NYS and Alphabet org is telling me as of 9am est today. I did not ask for the statute but here are their numbers if your are losing sleep, L.Leon.

Law and Order 

Cheers,

Mark 

Alphabet org Melville office 6316948372

NYS Safe Act Dept. 855- Law- Guns





Cheers

Whoever you’re buying the gun from, have them red lock tite or permantly epoxy the moderator on. It’ll be before purchase, and shouldn’t be removable.
 
A suppressor of any kind, even built for an airgun only, even with it's own proprietary thread is a felony to possess if it wasn't affixed permanently to the gun PRIOR to the purchase, is what NYS and Alphabet org is telling me as of 9am est today. I did not ask for the statute but here are their numbers if your are losing sleep, L.Leon.

Law and Order 

Cheers,

Mark 

Alphabet org Melville office 6316948372

NYS Safe Act Dept. 855- Law- Guns





Cheers

Whoever you’re buying the gun from, have them red lock tite or permantly epoxy the moderator on. It’ll be before purchase, and shouldn’t be removable.

Not losing sleep here. Companies like Donnyfl and ODB and Huggett maybe? Me not too much... And I quote...



The subject of airgun silencers is hotly debated on the airgun forums. There is no agreement about the legality of silencers on airguns in the U.S., and the issue is far more complex than it seems at first.

This is the definition of a silencer contained in U.S. Code, Title 18, Part 1, Chapter 44, Subsection 922:

(24) The terms "Firearm Silencer" and "Firearm Muffler" mean any device for silencing, muffling, or diminishing the report of a portable firearm, including any combination of parts, designed or redesigned, and intended for use in assembling or fabricating a firearm silencer or firearm muffler, and any part intended only for use in such assembly or fabrication.

Further wording in the Code defines the silencer to be a firearm that must be serial-numbered and controlled. The use of a silencer in a crime can add penalties to the punishment for that crime, and the possession of an unregistered or unserial-numbered (i.e., homemade) silencer are both crimes by themselves.
 
Since all the lawyers have chimed in, I'll do the same..

Lot next to school: Not a good idea. ( I'm sure you are safe, but none the less)

NY Law: Clearly the Alphabet org should take precedence over NYS law. ( Fed vs State) and an air gun is NOT a firearm.. NY is run by anti's..Get the Hel$ out.

No way I would affix a moderator to my air gun, in NY...

BUT you could just be having a peaceful protest in your yard with appropriate signage and you will be good.. Nothing to see here.


 
Since all the lawyers have chimed in, I'll do the same..

Lot next to school: Not a good idea. ( I'm sure you are safe, but none the less)

NY Law: Clearly the Alphabet org should take precedence over NYS law. ( Fed vs State) and an air gun is NOT a firearm.. NY is run by anti's..Get the Hel$ out.

No way I would affix a moderator to my air gun, in NY...

BUT you could just be having a peaceful protest in your yard with appropriate signage and you will be good.. Nothing to see here.


You would think this logic is good and sound but unfortunately it’s not
As someone who has driven a truck for 20 years across all state line I can tell you what I’ve learned, when it comes to a state and federal law that differs on a subject the law that is most restrictive is the law in effect 

Federal law sets a minimum standard state law can be more restrictive but not less than federal demands 
 
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