I'm looking for a multi-pump air rifle from a Mfg. who has consistent Quality Control... Any suggestions?

No longer made for a reason .. they filled with water
The problem with the Independance/Indy is that there is no way to remove the moisture accumulated from pumping in the air.
This is especially a bad situation if you live in a humid area
I thought it was the answer to "never have to use a compressor again" ... but it wasn't the case.
not all parts are corrosion resistent inside your air rifle
you should have seen the coffe brown liquid that was removed from the inside of the rifle
I never got it fixed because the same thing would happen again
It's a sad situation, because when it worked...the rifle was soo much fun
I would NOT recommend as an option
My thoughts exactly.

They were cool when they worked, but they never worked.
 
No longer made for a reason .. they filled with water
The problem with the Independance/Indy is that there is no way to remove the moisture accumulated from pumping in the air.
This is especially a bad situation if you live in a humid area
I thought it was the answer to "never have to use a compressor again" ... but it wasn't the case.
not all parts are corrosion resistent inside your air rifle
you should have seen the coffe brown liquid that was removed from the inside of the rifle
I never got it fixed because the same thing would happen again
It's a sad situation, because when it worked...the rifle was soo much fun
I would NOT recommend as an option
I have been looking for an FX Indy . what would you think it would work like in a lower humidity area south KY is a normal 50% to 62% ?
 
After much searching of countless reviews today, with screws falling out, bolts that have a heavy drag, triggers that freeze, what's described as a flimsy pump system and so on from some of the Seneca Dragonfly Mk2 owners and their reviews (although their are plenty of happy 4 and 5 star reviews that state no problems right out of the box) I've come to the conclusion that there has to be a manufacturer with better overall quality control than what I'm seeing from Air Venturi. It's maybe a step down, at least in price, but does Crosman still manufacture their air rifles in the USA, I've seen a general consensus in their reviews that for the low entry level price they are pretty reliable and accurate air rifles. It maybe that with the low prices no one has high expectations but I'm not sure.
I may have to give up my search for a multi-pump and go with a break-barrel but for now I would like for my first air rifle to be an accurate and reliable multi-pump... Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated...
I own a 1967 Sheridan ,20 cal. Easy to pump and deadly to 48 yards (my home range ) 5/8 inch washer hung on a string . 4 pumps is all i ever do .
paid $150 1 year ago . beautiful looking rifle
 
I have been looking for an FX Indy . what would you think it would work like in a lower humidity area south KY is a normal 50% to 62% ?
I doubt it
You'd probably have to strip it down every so often just to make sure nothing is corroding and drain any fluids
I doubt anyone wants to do that much maintenance
 
No longer made for a reason .. they filled with water
The problem with the Independance/Indy is that there is no way to remove the moisture accumulated from pumping in the air.
This is especially a bad situation if you live in a humid area
I thought it was the answer to "never have to use a compressor again" ... but it wasn't the case.
not all parts are corrosion resistent inside your air rifle
you should have seen the coffe brown liquid that was removed from the inside of the rifle
I never got it fixed because the same thing would happen again
It's a sad situation, because when it worked...the rifle was soo much fun
I would NOT recommend as an option
That's really interesting. Benjamin and Sheridan both used brass or bronze in order to alleviate this and Crosman uses a brass valve mechanism. I've never experienced any significant corrosion/rust issues with multipumps myself, but apparently it is a significant enough concern for companies to have specced their rifles in order to deal with it.
 
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I doubt it
You'd probably have to strip it down every so often just to make sure nothing is corroding and drain any fluids
I doubt anyone wants to do that much maintenance
i suspect you could clear any moisture buildup by occasionally firing the rifle upside down. Particularly if you were to leave it that way overnight so that any moisture accumulation would be concentrated at the transfer port.
 
I know you said "air rifle" but I'll share my experience and thats with the Crosman 13XX and 2289 carbines. They are versatile and reliable and pretty accurate. At 25 yards 5 shot groups consistent CTC .60 groups. Thats with the stock triggers which I'm getting ready to install the two stage trigger. They are so easy to work on and the aftermarket parts are easy to get. If you are someone who considers weight, they are much lighter than an air rifle. Thats my .2 cents contribution good luck with your search.
 
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I know you said "air rifle" but I'll share my experience and thats with the Crosman 13XX and 2289 carbines. They are versatile and reliable and pretty accurate. At 25 yards 5 shot groups consistent CTC .60 groups. Thats with the stock triggers which I'm getting ready to install the two stage trigger. They are so easy to work on and the aftermarket parts are easy to get. If you are someone who considers weight, they are much lighter than an air rifle. Thats my .2 cents contribution good luck with your search.
Do all the mods you would do to a13xx on a362 and your golden.
 
After much searching of countless reviews today, with screws falling out, bolts that have a heavy drag, triggers that freeze, what's described as a flimsy pump system and so on from some of the Seneca Dragonfly Mk2 owners and their reviews (although their are plenty of happy 4 and 5 star reviews that state no problems right out of the box) I've come to the conclusion that there has to be a manufacturer with better overall quality control than what I'm seeing from Air Venturi. It's maybe a step down, at least in price, but does Crosman still manufacture their air rifles in the USA, I've seen a general consensus in their reviews that for the low entry level price they are pretty reliable and accurate air rifles. It maybe that with the low prices no one has high expectations but I'm not sure.
I may have to give up my search for a multi-pump and go with a break-barrel but for now I would like for my first air rifle to be an accurate and reliable multi-pump... Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated...
After much searching of countless reviews today, with screws falling out, bolts that have a heavy drag, triggers that freeze, what's described as a flimsy pump system and so on from some of the Seneca Dragonfly Mk2 owners and their reviews (although their are plenty of happy 4 and 5 star reviews that state no problems right out of the box) I've come to the conclusion that there has to be a manufacturer with better overall quality control than what I'm seeing from Air Venturi. It's maybe a step down, at least in price, but does Crosman still manufacture their air rifles in the USA, I've seen a general consensus in their reviews that for the low entry level price they are pretty reliable and accurate air rifles. It maybe that with the low prices no one has high expectations but I'm not sure.
I may have to give up my search for a multi-pump and go with a break-barrel but for now I would like for my first air rifle to be an accurate and reliable multi-pump... Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated...
I have a Diana 48 in .22, powerful,accurate like just about all pellets, nice adjustable sights. One stroke you’re in business . Beeman R-9 is a good break barrel as well .
been shooting it 35+ yrs. . minimum Maintaining, still going strong. Better than multi pump imho. Btw, I’ve had a Sheridan, Crosman , Benjamin etc . good luck with your choice.
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Brend new to this site as of this morning. I have a 30 year old Daisy 880 that I can’t seem to get accurate enough for a clean squirrel kill. I’ll be switching to pellets and will get a cleaning kit to see if this helps. As this situation has me thinking about an upgrade in the $200 range, including scope, I’m confused as to multi-pump or break barrel. One site says break barrel is inaccurate due to barrel and scope being on separate parts of the gun. Another site says no problem with break-barrel accuracy. The selection of anir rifles in my budget is exceeded only by the confusion of which gun to choose. All I want is an accurate rifle, .177 or .22, in the $200 range. TIA for your helpful advice.
 
Brend new to this site as of this morning. I have a 30 year old Daisy 880 that I can’t seem to get accurate enough for a clean squirrel kill. I’ll be switching to pellets and will get a cleaning kit to see if this helps. As this situation has me thinking about an upgrade in the $200 range, including scope, I’m confused as to multi-pump or break barrel. One site says break barrel is inaccurate due to barrel and scope being on separate parts of the gun. Another site says no problem with break-barrel accuracy. The selection of anir rifles in my budget is exceeded only by the confusion of which gun to choose. All I want is an accurate rifle, .177 or .22, in the $200 range. TIA for your helpful advice.
Break barrels can be very accurate, but with the cheaper ones on the market accuracy is hit or miss. Also, shooting spring guns accurately takes more skill than with other rifles. What's really going on is that because a massive spring and piston has to move before the pellet will fire, the lock time (the time between when you pull the trigger and when a projectile is fired), is long and if your hold changes in any way then the pellet will fire to a slightly different point of aim.

I think that fixed barrel spring guns are slightly more accurate, but a quality break barrel like an HW95 will be more accurate than most

I personally don't think there are any decent multipumps out there anymore, but you can build a Crosman 362 or 1322 into a decent gun and there are mountains of aftermarket parts available for them. You could also buy a used Sheridan or Benjamin. The sights on those aren't great, but they're otherwise good guns.
 
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Brend new to this site as of this morning. I have a 30 year old Daisy 880 that I can’t seem to get accurate enough for a clean squirrel kill. I’ll be switching to pellets and will get a cleaning kit to see if this helps. As this situation has me thinking about an upgrade in the $200 range, including scope, I’m confused as to multi-pump or break barrel. One site says break barrel is inaccurate due to barrel and scope being on separate parts of the gun. Another site says no problem with break-barrel accuracy. The selection of anir rifles in my budget is exceeded only by the confusion of which gun to choose. All I want is an accurate rifle, .177 or .22, in the $200 range. TIA for your helpful advice.
The 880 is very accurate with pellets and with some home grown mods one can increase the velocity. That was my first airgun and took many creatures to include pest birds, rabbits, rats, and ground squirrel. Longest shot was 40 yards and it was dead on the spot. BB's can compromise the barrel however mine had used many bbs before I switched to pellets and it was and still is one of my most accurate pellet guns.
Try pellets first and find which one is more accurate and maybe do the trigger mod and flat top piston mod before paying ways with it. If our when you decide tomove on, for that price, a used 392 or 397, is a good pumper. Or new would be the dragonfly mk2 or 362 with a steel breech. 140/1400 is good too but has a heavy trigger. Only thing I know about break barrels is I never gave them enough patience to learn to shoot them.
 
I have an old Benjamin Blue Streak with a peep site. I had to drill and tap it to install the peep. I had a scope on it but the mount slipped. I hardly ever use it. Pumping between shots is just not how I like to spend my time. To get it up to 15 fpe or so takes 10 pumps. I want that much power to think of shooting a squirrel with it. I would rather do my pumping up-front and then have dozens of shots before another pumping episode. Originally with my first PCP I did just that. I still have the two hand pumps but I've switched to compressors and a Scott air pack. But even if hand pumping I think most of us would prefer to pump and shoot in two at least slightly different time periods. Shooting a 5 shot group with 10 pumps between each shot is just not that much fun. Hitting a squirrel a little off and then pumping 10 times to deliver a finisher would be an issue for me.

I like my Benjamin and it has certainly held up over several decades but the trigger is not that great, not as good as my under $500 PCPs. I shoot thousands of shots a year from my 6 pcps but normally don't shoot a dozen shots through the Benjamin in a year. I have both, it is just more fun to use the PCPs.
 
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