One other afterthought: The Dreamline Classic with its smaller air cylinder will be easier/quicker to fill with a less expensive HPA compressor, for someone who is just getting into PCP air rifles.
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Ideas for next rifle, FX line.
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My suggestion would be a Dreamline tactical bottle version, it will check all your boxes! Dreamline classic is phenomenal but it does NOT have the HS powerwheel which I can’t live without! This is why I could not pull the trigger on the Dreamline GRS version even though I want that gun so bad!
- high shot count, check!
- adjustable power, check!
- pint point, a hole accuracy at 30 yards, check and verified daily!
- easy to tune for any ammo, check!
- more than enough power, check!
- potential to spend more than the cost of gun on crap for it, check! (I’m still working on that)
- high shot count, check!
- adjustable power, check!
- pint point, a hole accuracy at 30 yards, check and verified daily!
- easy to tune for any ammo, check!
- more than enough power, check!
- potential to spend more than the cost of gun on crap for it, check! (I’m still working on that)
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Personally, if I was limited to just 30yrds for 90% of my shooting and wanting pinpoint accuracy, I don’t see the need for all the bells, whistles and possibly aggravation of an FX platform. Plenty of other rock solid high end guns out there that will easily match an FX and they are far less complicated. The FX barrel system is both a blessing and a curse. If you are going long with slugs or heavy pellets, the curse gives you options so we deal with it. For a 30yrd guy wanting a rock solid and not finicky gun, a traditional barrel might make you happier. You said you make the mistake of buying entry level then having to upgrade. The same mistake can be made at the other end of the spectrum. You can buy a more complicated gun than you will ever need and wind up chasing your tail when you could just be shooting and having fun.
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@vetmx: logically I agree with you 110%! But honestly which one of us really “need” any of our guns? The term need is a mere disguise and a lie to ourselves to justify our want! I for one have decided I’ve lied to myself long enough and “come out of closet” and proudly proclaim I don’t need any of the sh!t I have, it’s 100% want and I’m OK with myself being who I am and embrace my airgun-identity! I will no longer attempt to justify any of my wants nor will I somehow identify any “needs” to anyone! 
to OP: welcome to the addiction and promptly disregard any “logic” and “sense”, you will thank me sooner than later!
edit: I thought about posting “self empowerment” pictures but thongs and Airguns don’t really go well together.
to OP: welcome to the addiction and promptly disregard any “logic” and “sense”, you will thank me sooner than later!
edit: I thought about posting “self empowerment” pictures but thongs and Airguns don’t really go well together.
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@vetmx: logically I agree with you 110%! But honestly which one of us really “need” any of our guns? The term need is a mere disguise and a lie to ourselves to justify our want! I for one have decided I’ve lied to myself long enough and “come out of closet” and proudly proclaim I don’t need any of the sh!t I have, it’s 100% want and I’m OK with myself being who I am and embrace my airgun-identity! I will no longer attend to justify any of my wants nor will I somehow identify any “needs” to anyone!
to OP: welcome to the addiction and promptly disregard any “logic” and “sense”, you will thank me sooner than later!
edit: I thought about posting “self empowerment” pictures but thongs and Airguns don’t really go well together.
LOL ;-) That's exactly the reason I have an EOS C100 Cinemacamera for my video hobby.
We have a saying, that the only difference between men and boys is the price of their toys. This is the only type of logic that is applied to any hobby.
At least the points for the Dreamline on my scoreboard have risen as a results of this discussion so far. I never heard about the power plenum before, there is nothing on the FX website about it. Would it mean more power but less shots or something along those lines ?
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FX Royale platform. Pretty much EVERYONE who owns these loves them. Probably the most accurate, dependable, quiet, trouble free & great feeling platform FX has EVER made. Don't remember ever seeing a negative review here on these. If you want to tinker though this IS NOT the one. Just search past reviews/posts here about Royale & you'll see. Good Luck!!! ( Watch Matt D's video on YouTube, "FX Royale, Fantastic All Purpose PCP")
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The Dream line is definitely an amazing platform, they are extremely easy to change from a tactical to other forms of style gun is a HUGE reason I have one in my sights personally. I personally love the accessories and interchangeable systems. The fact I can just get a couple of conversion pieces and a stock and go from the Dream tac - Dream classic hunting style. WOW. I currently have an Impact at home, and a Maverick I ordered but haven't received yet. It seems like Price is a big deal so if you don't want to wait on the Maverick I highly suggest the dream series. My best friend has the dream tac and we have used it for distance ( 50, 75, and 100 yards) or for short distance and phenomenal power. Its easy to tune and a lot of fun.
I don't have a .22 barrel kit for my impact just the .25 and .30 but after some research and watching some videos on the penetration depth and power, the .22 seems to be like a needle with a bunch of power. You got me thinking that the .22 might be something I need to get haha.
I saw some people talking about the Wildcat. That's not a bad choice either from what I have seen on its performance.
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I disagree with the want and need thing. But I’m 52 and have owned more guns of all types than I can count. After building quite a few slug guns, I learned I needed something in a gun. But the gun that offered it was a gun that I didn’t want. But I bought one again because the first time I owned it, I wasn’t smart enough to know that I would need a certain function chasing the slug dragon. Ironically the guys that want that particular gun, most of them have no clue as to what they actually need. Some of us run around chasing the latest greatest cool stuff, some of us are more calculated when making decisions. A pellet life is a much simpler life and doesn’t require a complicated gun with a barrel that you can’t let touch something or starts acting crazy if something isn’t right in its many components.
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I actually love shooting pellets sometimes more than I love slugs lol. But with that being said with the superior liners now I think its becoming way easier to switch back and forth. I just got some ballistic gel coming in, I think i need to try out my .30 cal Slugs vs pellets in the gel. I have a .30 cal set up on my impact and I have the 44 grain and 50 grain Diabolo's rn.
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Re: "what are your thoughts on Royale vs Boss" I have BOTH. In fact, they're the only 2 airguns I own! Sold all my others (5) after I acquired these! The Boss is my go-to hunting airgun. I absolutely love 'em both but for distance & cutting through the wind & brush the Boss is the one. Be aware, having original Smooth Twist barrels they WILL NOT shoot slugs. That being said, my longest kill with the Boss is 178 yards! With PELLETS!!! They are really fine rifles. Accuracy is second to none. The Royale is quieter than the Boss but that doesn't imply that the Boss is loud. Benchrest champions have told me more than once that these are the best all round platforms FX has ever made!
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I still have my streamline 22, it’s very accurate and started my addiction. I also have a maverick compact 30cal, I like everything but the safety location. It is also very accurate and great for walking my woods.
It’s not an fx but I really like my wife’s Uragan compact 22. It’s pretty accurate, light and easy to pack in the woods. I like the left hand cocking lever and the safety location in the large trigger guard.
In my opinion a more traditional rifle is easier to shoot accurate off of a bench. Most bull pups need additional mounts to move a bipod out further. Bull pups are still accurate though, when I do my part any of the 3 mentioned guns will do dime sized 10shot 50 yard groups with good weather.
It’s not an fx but I really like my wife’s Uragan compact 22. It’s pretty accurate, light and easy to pack in the woods. I like the left hand cocking lever and the safety location in the large trigger guard.
In my opinion a more traditional rifle is easier to shoot accurate off of a bench. Most bull pups need additional mounts to move a bipod out further. Bull pups are still accurate though, when I do my part any of the 3 mentioned guns will do dime sized 10shot 50 yard groups with good weather.
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178 yards! that is insane! I love pellets vs Slugs.. ughhh maybe my third airgun should be this laser pellet cannon hahaha. I have an Impact rn and a Maverick on the way. this forum is going to make my wife hate me... (This seems worth sleeping on the couch if I'm picking off a Javelina with a pellet at 178 yards! )
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Well, I'm not sure the Royale/Boss platform is the best BR rifle available (don't know that it isn't either), but, as far as I'm concerned it's the best thing FX has ever made. It's the only FX product I own, or ever will own. I had a Crown a while, not a bad rifle, but unpredictable POI changes made it worthless as a hunting rifle. The complexity of the the barrel shroud/ sleeve/liner assembly is just too fragile for an all-purpose rifle. And then the power and reg adjustment features are other areas of unnecessary complexity. There's nothing wrong with any of this stuff, as long as you know what you're getting. For someone who likes to tinker with the rifle and explore lots of different combinations, FX is a dream come true. If you want a rifle that you set up one time, then forget about tuning and just shoot it, the Royale platform is it in the FX line. Just my opinion, and my wife says I'm always wrong.
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I don't think all people with impacts or crowns constantly adjust them. I have a couple friends that have them and have never adjusted them. Just because you can doesnt mean you have to adjust things. I've had Royale and still have a Boss. The Impact is just as accurate as either in my experience.
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The parts to change styles on the dreamline arent really available yet. I dont know if they will ever be. I'd like th change from dreampup to dream tac but it's just not available. Caliber changes are usually on back order too.
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I don't normally comment in FX threads, but I would seriously think about spending the extra money on a Crown Mk11 with a super light barrel system.
I purchased a Crown Mk1 1/2 per say! with the super light barrel system and the Pic. style upper scope rail, I've been shooting it extensively and very happy with the gun.
My Reasoning:
1- Very accurate .177 & .22 barrels "Have both", so far no point of impact changes other than cleaning's, Temp. changes, etc
2- Have the ability to change calibers, or to slug liners etc.
3- Plenty of adjustability if you want? but not needed from factory settings.
4- So far very dependable, no o-ring issues etc.
I purchased a Crown Mk1 1/2 per say! with the super light barrel system and the Pic. style upper scope rail, I've been shooting it extensively and very happy with the gun.
My Reasoning:
1- Very accurate .177 & .22 barrels "Have both", so far no point of impact changes other than cleaning's, Temp. changes, etc
2- Have the ability to change calibers, or to slug liners etc.
3- Plenty of adjustability if you want? but not needed from factory settings.
4- So far very dependable, no o-ring issues etc.
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power plenum is just an extension tube to increase plenum space, it actually helps with both power and shot counts in most cases except really short barrels. All FX dreamline will come with 1 power plenum installed so you don't have to worry about it.
If 1600 dollar is something you would entertain then the crown MK2 is absolute BEAST! The crown in all configurations will have both transport power adjustment wheel and hammer spring adjustment dial/wheel which I can't live without. Good thing is you can't make a bad choice here!
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The Crown costs 1550 euros here, the Dreamline Classic 990 euros and the Maveric VP 1090 euros. The Crowns price is a bit hard for me to justify. That's why the Dreamline is tempting. That is also why Maveric VP is an option as it has impressive features and the price point is justifieable. So speckwise the order might be Maverick VP, Crown, Dreamline. Esthetically the order would be Crown, Dreamline, Maverick VP, Ergonomically I suppose Dreamline and Crown would be tied, and Maveric VP last (at least due to the safety location). Then economically the order would be Dreamline, Maverick VP and Crown. So everyone is a winner from one angle, and a loser from another ;-)
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