I just don't get this slug thing

That's all I read about these days-slugs, slugs, slugs. I've experimented with slugs on all of my rifles: RAWs and FXs with various liners and all calibers. I've still yet to get a slug to shoot as well as pellets at up to 100 yards. Sure, I understand they have a better BC and are less affected by wind and all that, but so what. I've tried NSA slugs, FX, JSB, and Ratsnipers. None of them shoots as good as pellets and cost more. I think this is just a fad.
 
It's all in the tuning but then again you need the right barrel too. I shoot slugs every bit as accurately as pellets at shorter ranges and once I hit 75+ yards the slugs start grouping better than the pellets in my Impact slug A liner. They are way better in the wind and at longer ranges as well so it's a win win situation for many of us.
 
That's all I read about these days-slugs, slugs, slugs. I've experimented with slugs on all of my rifles: RAWs and FXs with various liners and all calibers. I've still yet to get a slug to shoot as well as pellets at up to 100 yards.  Sure, I understand they have a better BC and are less affected by wind and all that, but so what. I've tried NSA slugs, FX, JSB, and Ratsnipers. None of them shoots as good as pellets and cost more. I think this is just a fad.

I see nothing wrong with continuing to do what works for you. 
 
Here is and example. Same gun. Dar gen ll .177 shooting jsb 10.3 and nsa 12.5 slugs. Note the difference in fpe @ 100 yds. Slugs are great when reaching out 
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If you are being successful with pellets doing what you're currently doing with a PCP. Then you are correct about not getting the slug thing, fact is the majority of airgun shooters use pellets because they simply work within their limitations. I personally did not get into PCPs to see how far I could lob projectiles, be they pellets or slugs. So in my case I have no use for slugs out of my PCPs.
 
I tend to prefer to shoot pellets at close range and if it's relatively calm. However, if it's windy and/or I'm shooting farther than 100 yards, I will shoot slugs(if I care about hitting what I'm aiming at).

Slugs outperform pellets when shooting for accuracy in significant wind and at longer distance(>100 yards). Slugs can also outperform pellets in killing power in some hunting situations.
 
I'm over the "slug curiosity" I'd had. I've seen some amazing long distance shooting & kills using slugs but from all I've read & experienced it's just not worth it for me personally to go down yet another rabbit hole (right gun, right tune, right weight, right shape, bigger plenum, longer/shorter barrel, ad infinitum! ). The original PCP rabbit hole was enough for me but I really do get why some guys are willing to go through the myriad of hoops one has to go thru to get a gun shooting slugs correctly. I'm just too old, lazy & poor to make that investment. 
 
I understand what you’re saying. It can be a long, frustrating process to tune for slugs. You certainly know what you’re doing though and can get your guns shooting them great, maybe you just need to give it another shot? Once you get it all figured out, slugs can be extremely effective at shorter ranges but really shine out past 75 yards or so. Contrary to what some think, I still give pellets the accuracy nod inside 75yds and even out to 100yds if there’s no wind. Slugs are becoming more and more accurate and are capable of phenomenal groups but more often than not, pellets are more accurate. The difference we’re talking about when comparing pellet and slug accuracy is minuscule. Sometimes it can be pellets by 1/4”, sometimes slugs by 1/16”. The point is both are very accurate!

Slugs, barrels and air guns are improving so fast, it’s getting easier and easier to shoot them without getting frustrated. I’ve tested almost every slug I can get my hands on from 25gr to 55gr. and it’s true, some don’t shoot nearly as well as others. However, you can usually find at least a few that will shoot great out of every barrel if the air gun is set up correctly and you’re shooting them at the right velocity. I don’t know which calibers you tested and can’t help you with .22 cal because I’ve done much less testing with the .22 than .25. I have shot a lot of .25 slugs, this might help if you do want to give it another shot. Other’s will probably chime in too.

Out of a RAW with polygonal barrel I would shoot the NSA 33.5 or 36.2 grain between 900-960fps

Out of the Slug A liner, I’d shoot the VK 32.8, Zan’s 35.0 or NSA 34.9 grain between 920-980fps.

Out of the Superior liner, I’d shoot the FX Hybrids at between 940-1000fps.

Out of the Superior Heavy liner, I’d shoot the NSA 38.9, 43.5, VK 40 grain between 920-980 fps.

Of course the velocities and accuracy will really vary depending on your gun and the nodes but these slugs will shoot if you get the gun set up right. Where you have the hammer spring pre load, power wheel, valve adjuster and especially the regulator will make a huge difference in how each of the slugs will shoot too. There is some debate about velocities and regulator settings but I’ve always said that slugs shoot best, more often than not, with a higher than normal regulator pressure(a quick blast of higher pressured air) and at pretty fast velocities. Other’s will disagree or say the fast velocities are used to compensate for the wrong twist rate etc… These are just my findings and have been confirmed by many who are in the know or shoot a lot of slugs. If you have success shooting slugs at 750-800fps, great! I’m not knocking other’s results, if something works for you, use it! Accuracy trumps everything else, if shooting at 800fps is most accurate, do it, just kind of defeats the purpose of shooting slugs for their high BC and retained energy. Some will agree with me, some will not. There are many different things that will work and there are also a whole bunch of variables. Test, test, test! 

I just thought I’d share my thoughts and some info. in case you want to give them another shot. I have lots of most every slug available too. If you want to give any of them a shot and don’t have something you want to try, I’d be happy to send you some. Many popular slugs are a little hard to come by right now, especially the NSA’s and Zan’s. 

I don’t think slugs are a fad at all. Air guns are being made with slugs in mind, barrels and liners are being made with twist rates ideal for various slugs. There are also more slugs being made by a plethora of companies, so it is much easier to find something that will work with your air gun. More information is available now too. When I started testing .25 slugs out of various FX 600 & 700mm liners 3 years ago, there was no info. at all for .25 slugs. All information pertaining to slugs out of FX liners was based on the .22. Now, it’s much easier to find.

Slugs aren’t for everyone and for the most part, pellets still rule at closer distances. For long range shooting and hunting though, slugs can be extremely accurate and pellets can’t touch the BC’s and retained energy of slugs. Altaros just released a .25 slug with a purported BC of over .20 vs. around .115 for most .25 caliber slugs or .47 for the 33.95 King Heavy pellet. I do like shooting slugs and look forward to what the future holds but I do understand it’s not for everyone.

When I started testing slugs, there were times when I literally wanted to throw my gun and never shoot a slug again. All it took was to see a little glimmer of superb accuracy and I was hooked. Now, with all the advancements in technology, I can’t even keep up with testing, there’s always something new to try, or new slugs coming out. There was a time when I quit testing them for a while, there was so many and it became a chore. I took a break, when I resumed my testing it was fun again and the results have been simply amazing. I’m having a blast and that’s why I do it. 

I posted some pictures on Instagram yesterday of a few of the remaining .25 slugs I have left after testing. I’ve tested most all of them in .25, like I said, not all shoot well but usually there are at least a few that are exceptional! Give it another try. If you want me to send you some slugs to test, let me know. I’d be happy to send some to you. 

Sorry I rambled on for so long, never meant to make such a long post! 

Stoti

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I feel the same way. I prefer pellets and 6 out of 7 of my guns I have tuned for pellets to 100 yards. However I do have a slug only 30 Cal Impact for longer range over 100y to have more retained energy and speed, but I had to have it professionally tuned to get it right. I just was not able to do it. I really enjoy an accurate pellet 100y or less. It’s pure shooting in a way. Plus a 44.75gr pellet out of a Uragan at 915 FPS on a squirrel at 50 yards is very satisfying. 
 
STOTI has helped me with slugs. The experience can be frustrating. His advice will help you narrow the field. You almost can’t test everything but Kevin has come close (LOL).
Here is a suggestion and I think it comes from the collective brain trust but it worked for me. Start at the estimate FPS that STOTI or others have suggested has worked for them. Shoot 3 shot groups at 30 yards and work with the gun making very small adjustments to what ever you can adjust until you can shoot three in the same hole at 30. Once you get that move to 100 yards and shoot ONLY in dead calm conditions . You will be surprised how much this speeds up the testing process. But I do agree with the statements about slugs and pellets. You certainly can live a happy life without slugs. They do have the advantages mentioned. I found that JSB knockouts work extremely well in my FX guns. The 217 diameter. I’m a 22 cal enthusiast. The 216 might work in a choked barrel . About 930 FPS 
 
I have always gotten excellent accuracy with slugs of all brands I've tried. H&N, Griffin, Varmint Knocker, FX and NSA.

As far as slugs being more expensive, the FX hybrid and Griffin slugs are spendy.

But NSA slugs, you get 200 .30 cal 49.5 for 18.99 plus 7.00 shipping for as many boxes as you want. The smaller calibers are still 18.99 per box but you get more slugs !

300 .25 cal 29gr.

That's cheaper than pellets, especially compared to Hades or Predator polymag.

Pellets have there use.

They are just not what I want to shoot !



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I cast my own slugs using NOE .249-39-ref mold. I’m working to tune in my newest mold. I have the impact mk2 and using my 700 heavy superior liner I believe. I shot anywhere from 30 yards to 100 and so far have been dead on. The old .249 mold I had, they were consistently ringing my 208 yard gong with ease.

I know what needs to be done to the new mold to get it where it needs to be. Which is getting it to drop at .250 then sizing them back down to .249. Iirc, I have these running about 930 FPS. My reg pressure is at 125 bar. My liner is carbon sleeved. I have Ernest Rowe dual transfer port. And currently have the factory probe installed, impact has the slug power kit as well. 

I also have a modified .250-41-bk NOE mold that I had decked to eliminate the boat tail section. It drops a 34.2 gr slug that is devastating from close in to about 80 yards. After that things get a bit weird with it.

so yes slugs can be a frustrating venture, especially if you have to keep buying them. Casting them and the supply is then unlimited and you can tweak and tune the slug to work with the gun.