I am not loving my HW77 - 177 cal problem solved

This is the most inconsistent springer I have. It seems to like 10. 3 gr JSB and AA and 10.6 Barracuda match pellets, but only certain tins. I have shot the same brand and weight pellets from different tins and it loves one tin but hates another tin. To make sure it wasn't me I shot the same pellets in my LGU and it shot pellets from the different tins great. 



Edit****** Discovered that the scope was bad. I need to apologize to my 77 for cussing at it and calling it trash.
 
I have a dozen or so Weihrauch springers in my collection now, all tuned. Along the way, I had a beautiful 77 that just didn’t shoot as well as the others I had worked up at the time. It wasn’t consistent. I chalked it up to being too light on the front end without the muzzle weight that is on a 97. But after acquiring a 98 recently that wouldn’t group in typical Weihrauch fashion, I think once In a while, one just gets a barrel that isn’t as true as the others.


I try several different pellets in terms of brands, weight, and head sizes. There is almost always one that easily comes to the top as the best performer, and sometimes that outcome is a real surprise. As an example, a 97 I just finished tuning showed a strong performance for the GTO lead free 6.79 Gr while my other 97s like the 10 grain plus series. Once complete with the right pellet, it now shoots consistent 10 shot beautiful round groups under 3/8” at 20 yards nearly every time.


In the end, if they don’t shoot up to my pretty particular standards, I move them on and chalk it up to experience.
 
Need to do some homework, on ocassion you will find a gun that just doesnt shoot well but they are rare! First make sure your rifle is consistant, check with a chronograph, id your shots are more than 10 fps apart a tuneup is in order. Id it is consistant then look carefully at your barrel, mabey even push some pellets thru and look them over closely!! Mabey some barrel lapping might ve in order and also check the crown. I have worked on rifles that do not group consistantly and found a good recrown fixed the issue. Check the screws holding the action in the stock, pressure on these mounting spots can be critical. From my tuning days the HW77 was always picky about stock screw tension... And...remember not all tins of pellets are the same, even though they should be....only way to know for sure is to buy lot numbered pellets so all in the lot came from same die, or they are supposed to anyway.... Most times these accuracy issues can be solved, but it may take time and lots of homework!!! As nice a rifle as the 77 is, it can be very hold sensative. I shot one in competition for a year, I did well with it, but found it to be very hold sensative, so much so that I moved to a TX200 which I found to be less hold sensative. The HW77 is a great rifle, well made, but can be quite picky when it comes to pellets, hold, and stock screw tention. With some serious evaluation and patience, I am sure you can figure it out. Good luck!
 
I thought you were not supposed to shoot lead free or even plastic based pellets in that gun. I just got one and it warns not to because it could damage the rifling. I checked one of these crossmans. Bite the tip gently like checking for real gold, and they don't budge ,bend, or deform. Other pellets differ but I wouldn't shoot "hard" pellets in my weihrauch. Imop. Sell it.
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Need to do some homework, on ocassion you will find a gun that just doesnt shoot well but they are rare! First make sure your rifle is consistant, check with a chronograph, id your shots are more than 10 fps apart a tuneup is in order. Id it is consistant then look carefully at your barrel, mabey even push some pellets thru and look them over closely!! Mabey some barrel lapping might ve in order and also check the crown. I have worked on rifles that do not group consistantly and found a good recrown fixed the issue. Check the screws holding the action in the stock, pressure on these mounting spots can be critical. From my tuning days the HW77 was always picky about stock screw tension... And...remember not all tins of pellets are the same, even though they should be....only way to know for sure is to buy lot numbered pellets so all in the lot came from same die, or they are supposed to anyway.... Most times these accuracy issues can be solved, but it may take time and lots of homework!!! As nice a rifle as the 77 is, it can be very hold sensative. I shot one in competition for a year, I did well with it, but found it to be very hold sensative, so much so that I moved to a TX200 which I found to be less hold sensative. The HW77 is a great rifle, well made, but can be quite picky when it comes to pellets, hold, and stock screw tention. With some serious evaluation and patience, I am sure you can figure it out. Good luck!

I think the problem is with hold sensitivity. My 97K in 22 is not that hold sensitive and neither are my LGUs so I was shooting the HW77 like I shoot them.
 
I thought you were not supposed to shoot lead free or even plastic based pellets in that gun. I just got one and it warns not to because it could damage the rifling. I checked one of these crossmans. Bite the tip gently like checking for real gold, and they don't budge ,bend, or deform. Other pellets differ but I wouldn't shoot "hard" pellets in my weihrauch. Imop. Sell it.
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I agree, have never had long term sucess with any material other than lead based pellets!! Those with plastic cases can come apart in the barrel and damage inside the barrel. Those with hard metals incorporated into the projectile have been known to come apart as well. Airgun barrels are delicate and anything other than lead based pellets can and will over time cause serious accuracy issues. I have saw these evolve over the past 30 plus years beginning with the Promethius pellets, some of the first plastic sabot pellets on the market. Cant say how well they might work on PCP barrels as I have no experience with them, but have dealt with spring guns for almost 50 years. I would never even go as far as to try a nonlead based pellet in a springer barrel!!!