HW70A Black Arrow

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Modski66 said:
I doubt it, it is just a cash-cow for Weihrauch, so they will not have invested in any improvements.
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I do not believe any improvements have been made to the HW70 as specimens I tuned 30 years back appear exactly the same as one I did 3 years ago. However, the Gaylord report found him struggling with seating pellets down the bore. Never a good idea with break barrels which prefer the pellet thumbed straight into the breach and we also do not know what lube was in the gun. They are rarely great straight from the box for instance, requiring a good 200 clearling shots to settle them down. He also did not do much pellet testing to find the ideal pellet.
I found Hobby particularly accurate coming out at around 440 fps untuned. Which is a good 40 fps faster than most SSP pistols and I would expect that to run in another 20 fps or so as the gun runs in.
With correct lubes and a slim slip washer I had around 480/490 from the ones I mildly tuned...
The scoped version probably is a tack driver potentially .....I never tried the gun scoped to assess it fully.

The improvement comes from the grips which are much nicer then the moulding used in the 70s/80s/90s...been production running for Eons these things.....Good gun.
 
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Steveoo said:
I do not believe any improvements have been made to the HW70 as specimens I tuned 30 years back appear exactly the same as one I did 3 years ago. However, the Gaylord report found him struggling with seating pellets down the bore. Never a good idea with break barrels which prefer the pellet thumbed straight into the breach and we also do not know what lube was in the gun. They are rarely great straight from the box for instance, requiring a good 200 clearling shots to settle them down. He also did not do much pellet testing to find the ideal pellet.
I found Hobby particularly accurate coming out at around 440 fps untuned. Which is a good 40 fps faster than most SSP pistols and I would expect that to run in another 20 fps or so as the gun runs in.
With correct lubes and a slim slip washer I had around 480/490 from the ones I mildly tuned...
The scoped version probably is a tack driver potentially .....I never tried the gun scoped to assess it fully.

The improvement comes from the grips which are much nicer then the moulding used in the 70s/80s/90s...been production running for Eons these things.....Good gun.
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Thank you, I needed this review from a Veteran owner. I have a Black Arrow arriving tomorrow without the scope since I already own all sorts of scopes/red dot options, I didn't need another.
 
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JohnnyPiston said:
Yes, as tinker said the grip is plastic but it has some depth to it thanks to the 'wood like' pattern and matte sheen. Not cheap looking plastic, if you know what I mean.

The cocking effort is very light. No real learning curve involved like the Beeman P1/P11/HW45 or P3/HW40 or HW75. Just an intuitive, short downward stroke.

The Black Arrow is a current production gun, so yes, still available.

Here is a pic from a while back with the package included Weihrauch 2 piece high mounts and Weihrauch 2x20 pistol scope:

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I also tried a Burris Fast Fire III mounted. Very slick set up IMO, great balance too.

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But I settled with the Weihrauch 2X20 scope, mounted as low as possible. Lower center of gravity, improved balance and steadiness compared to the high mount set up:

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@JohnnyPiston

How did you manage to mount the Burris Fast Fire III to the HW70 when the rail is so much thinner than the mounting platform for the sight? The tightening screw doesn’t go in far enough to catch the rail. I bought both the gun and sight based on your setup, but now I can’t figure out how you were able to mount it. I know this is an old post, but any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Junior80 said:
@JohnnyPiston

How did you manage to mount the Burris Fast Fire III to the HW70 when the rail is so much thinner than the mounting platform for the sight? The tightening screw doesn’t go in far enough to catch the rail. I bought both the gun and sight based on your setup, but now I can’t figure out how you were able to mount it. I know this is an old post, but any help would be greatly appreciated.
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From his post "low Vortex picatinny mounts & UTG adaptor bases" I'm guessing the HW70 has a 11mm rail and you need to adapt that to the picanny base on the sight.
 
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No Black Arrow but I enjoy 2 HW70s. Recently, I purchased a chrome HW70 serialized RB #1.

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jccams said:
From his post "low Vortex picatinny mounts & UTG adaptor bases" I'm guessing the HW70 has a 11mm rail and you need to adapt that to the picanny base on the sight.
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@jccams Thank you very much for the reply. Yesterday I bought a Tactical 11mm to 20mm Picatinny Weaver Scope Dovetail Rail Adapter Mount Base on Ebay. Hopefully that works.
 
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