HW/Weihrauch HW50 S Jubilee model 75 Years Limited Edition Blue Laminate

...someone should correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the HW50 "V" was the improved model in that the barrel was rifled, the very first having been smooth bore.
The smooth bore was because in the immediate post war period rifled barrels were too accurate, and so too similar a really frightening gadget like an MG42?
So I'm not sure if the HW50V was really the first?
 
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...someone should correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the HW50 "V" was the improved model in that the barrel was rifled, the very first having been smooth bore.
The smooth bore was because in the immediate post war period rifled barrels were too accurate, and so too similar a really frightening gadget like an MG42?
So I'm not sure if the HW50V was really the first?
You are mistaken, smoothbore barrels were produced before the war in the late 1930s. Zenith, Diana, CZ and even IZH installed smoothbore barrels in parallel with rifled ones on the same models. Most likely, this was due to the cost of production, everyone could choose a barrel according to their budget.
 
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True, but that's because in some nations rifled barrels were not permitted. In occupied Germany the rifling was forbidden for potential military use reasons.
Actually some very early post war barrels are stamped "gez", indicating rifling.
Once upon a time I collected pre-war pistols made like Zenith/Diana mod.4 and their pre-war clones. Almost half of them I came across had smooth barrels, regardless of the country of manufacture.I only bought these pistols for myself with rifled barrels. Before the war there were no bans on the production or sale of rifled barrels, even in the USSR.After the war, all of Europe and the USSR produced air guns with a power of 7.5 J?no more. There were no restrictions on rifled barrels. There was a restriction in the USSR, air weapons were produced only in caliber 177.
 
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I would rather have one with a walnut stock.
Id rather have one standard stock at a lower price i can go enjoy everyday shooting then silly inflated anniversary or special edition. / pedestal gun..lol

Hw got to where their making the common everyday affordable models unavailable for the silly inflated priced specialty.
 
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75 years places the HW 50's initial production at 1950, which is correct. I don't know what the original "V" stood for, but not sure it matters...as an HW collector, I can tell ya they change model designations at the drop of a hat, and re-use them to mean different things, etc.

The HW 50 of the 1950's shares nothing with today's gun anyhow, beyond the name and overall size.
 
75 years places the HW 50's initial production at 1950, which is correct. I don't know what the original "V" stood for, but not sure it matters...as an HW collector, I can tell ya they change model designations at the drop of a hat, and re-use them to mean different things, etc.

The HW 50 of the 1950's shares nothing with today's gun anyhow, beyond the name and overall size.

"1953 Weihrauch was also building the HW35 (in 4.5mm and 5.5mm) and the HW55 (4.5mm only) alongside a sporting version of the HW50V, the HW50S. The "first series" of HWs had a seagull symbol stamped into the left side of the breech block and short trigger blocks. V


So some kinda sporting models?

Could be just trigger or sight difference between the 2 ?

Another mention from garvin

 
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I am now reliably informed (thanks specie!) that "V" stands for the German word for "improved." So it may very well signify the switch from smoothbore to rifled barrels. IIRC the occupying Allies did forbid rifled barrels for some years.

I have a 1959 HW brochure in which the "V" is gone. But "M" denotes an HW 50 with a simple trigger sear-engagement adjustment, "S" adds a grooved receiver, and "SD" adds a match sight Also there is a note at the bottom of the page for an upgraded stock. The HW 35 and 55 had the then-new Rekord, but apparently not yet the HW 50.

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