HW/Weihrauch HW50 LOVE

I love this 177 Hw50. The way it's set up its probably the most versatile air rifle I own. It's got a simple fixed 4x non AO scope. I can pop targets at random distances without any adjustments.
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It's shooting nicely at ~11.3 fpe. The gun is reasonably light at 7.2lbs scoped. It's size and weight make it come to shoulder perfectly. It's my first choice to bring into the squirrel woods.
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Ive been shooting my bigger 77,97,95 the last few days with mixed experiences and feelings. Tonight this gun was nothing but joy. I have no idea how many tens of thousands have been through this gun but man is this thing ridiculously smooth in every function. You can tell this guns got some shots on it by looking at butt pad wear on it's corners. This is it's second stock too.

This 50 will never replace my beloved 30s because of cocking weight but I have another 177 Hw50 on the way that I plan on soft tuning and putting peeps on it. The older I get the more I appreciate these lighter less powerful rifles.

Be well
Ron

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That moderator looks sleek. What make/model is it please?
 
Which generation Hw50? I'm so confused. Thank you Weihrauch.
the one i got in trade was a new stock version and i didn't break the factory seals till i sold it @ a show . The one i bought is new also if i remember the picture i saw , I am buying it to play @ tuning ,which i have never attempted .
 
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just checked the old Beeman catalogs, looks like the R6 (HW99) was released in 1995/1996 and billed as an economical gun for the whole family. The R8 was still listed and the R10 was now gone.

So it appears Weirauch discontinued the HW85 and HW50’s around 1995 and replaced them with the HW95 and HW99 respectively which were initially cheaper than their threaded end cap brethren.

Then in a (clever?) marketing move, relabeled these as HW50’s (and some HW95’s as HW85’s).

If I ever see an old R6 for sale for a decent price, I would like to add to my collection as it had (IMO) better looking stocks.
 
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just checked the old Beeman catalogs, looks like the R6 (HW99) was released in 1995/1996 and billed as an economical gun for the whole family.
That's interesting. I was under the impression that the 99 came from the year of release. Maybe it wasn't released in Europe until 1999? Why did they do this :cautious:.
If I ever see an old R6 for sale for a decent price, I would like to add to my collection as it had (IMO) better looking stocks.
I had a guy contact me about selling me a 177 Hw50. He said he had an R6. I told him if it had an abbreviated stock, I wasn't interested. He said OK and didn't hear back from him on either rifle. I'll forward you his information if you like but, I doubt it be a "decent price" he told me that my value estimation of a used 177 Hw50 was way too low and he'd send me pictures to help me decide. Again I never heard from him after that and I paid exactly what I said they were worth. And the one I got coming is from the exact era I wanted.
 
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Thanks appreciate the lead, but I only have a casual interest in acquiring one of these and mostly as nostalgia to round out my R series collection. Don’t really want to negotiate too much, it’s more of a if I see one and the price is right would buy it kind of thing.

Good luck with the one you got coming
 
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That scope is only like 11 or 12 oz. It keeps the rifle nice and light. 4x is enough for squirrels at 50 yards and I don't like pushing it that far anyway. I have a 4" round plate at 93 yards I like to hit with this gun. That scope is zeroed at 25 yards, 3/4 mil at 50 and 3 mil at 93. Because it's fixed power it easy to remember all your common holdovers. It's focused from ten yards out. It's a perfect utilitarian set up. I'll be switching more rifles to non AO scopes.
My hw50s is configured almost exactly the same, and it is indeed a great hunting/target package. Just curious why you prefer the Hawke 4x32 non AO scope over something like the Hawke 2-7x32 AO? I think that you'll really like the new hw50s with the ARH indoor PK.
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Just curious why you prefer the Hawke 4x32 non AO scope over something like the Hawke 2-7x32 AO?
I'm pretty sure I outlined that in the OP but I'll go again. AO scopes are heavier and limit your response time when you need to adjust them to see a target at a different distance than its set for. All the hold over values change with magnification adjustments on SFP scopes. This makes it very difficult to use a graduated reticle. To remember every mildot hold over value at every infinitely variable magnification and distance combination is certainly beyond my capabilities. A single power scope sighted in for a specific pellet always keeps the same value. I just have to know the distance.

None of this matters if you only shoot inanimate objects at known fixed distances. Its a different story for a woods rifle. Not that I should be proud of it but I killed a gray with a headshot at 65 yards with this combo. I was shooting 25 yard groups when I seen it beyond my target board. A higher power AO scope would have been too blurry at 65 yards to know the squirrel was there, much less hit it. I was reckless for taking that shot. I really prefer to keep squirrels inside of 40 yards for this gun. At roughly 800 fps its almost point and shoot at that distance. I feel 4x is plenty of mag for most spring piston airguns. Most of which don't have enough accuracy to reliably hit a squirrels head at 50 yards anyway.

HTH
Ron
 
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I love this 177 Hw50. The way it's set up its probably the most versatile air rifle I own. It's got a simple fixed 4x non AO scope. I can pop targets at random distances without any adjustments.
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It's shooting nicely at ~11.3 fpe. The gun is reasonably light at 7.2lbs scoped. It's size and weight make it come to shoulder perfectly. It's my first choice to bring into the squirrel woods.
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Ive been shooting my bigger 77,97,95 the last few days with mixed experiences and feelings. Tonight this gun was nothing but joy. I have no idea how many tens of thousands have been through this gun but man is this thing ridiculously smooth in every function. You can tell this guns got some shots on it by looking at butt pad wear on it's corners. This is it's second stock too.

This 50 will never replace my beloved 30s because of cocking weight but I have another 177 Hw50 on the way that I plan on soft tuning and putting peeps on it. The older I get the more I appreciate these lighter less powerful rifles.

Be well
Ron

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Nice grain on that stock!
 
Nice grain on that stock!
Thanks it's ok for beech. It was more interesting than the one originally on it. I swapped the original with this one from the 22 that I sold. I used this gun a couple years before this stock. This stock was almost brand new when I swapped them. Now look at it :)