I am "this close" to picking up one of these in .22. With a scope only sight configuration, what scope could I expect to last a long time and shot plenty on this air gun? I am tired of the buy and return broken scopes routine my RWS 34 .22 is doing to me. Does this spring gun have better recoil manners than the 34? I can shoot my 34 RWS 2-3 shots a minute for hours at a time. And I do it often. The TX-200 in .22 is also interesting to me.
HW 97K advice please.
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An HW97K would be an excellent choice and would recommend a Weaver V16 or Leupold 3-9x EFR if you don't want to ever have to send it in for warranty. They are the only scopes that didn't break on my springers
and there were some expensive scopes I tried which broke that I won't recommend. The rifles were the RWS 48,52, and 54 which I believe are the harshest of them all.
I have heard folks having good luck with Leapers UTG brand and the Hawke Airmax but I personally wouldn't think about trying them on springers and don't want the hassle of dismounting and having to send them in for warranty.
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and there were some expensive scopes I tried which broke that I won't recommend. The rifles were the RWS 48,52, and 54 which I believe are the harshest of them all.
I have heard folks having good luck with Leapers UTG brand and the Hawke Airmax but I personally wouldn't think about trying them on springers and don't want the hassle of dismounting and having to send them in for warranty.
CA
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i have the hw95 luxus .22 and the rws48 .177 and seems to me the recoils close between them maybe a little more on the rws but its heavier so it softens the blow so to speak. I shot a 300dollar hawke scope on the rws but broke it on the hw95.... go figure! anyway hawke either fixed it or sent me something new not sure as it hasnt arived back yet. Early next week tracking says.
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Look at SWFA too. I have one of their fixed powers on my hw97. Granted it is sub 12ftlbs, but I've had zero problems
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I have a several 97's and use Leapers compact both etched and wire reticles and Hawke Airmax scopes with no issues
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I think the HW97 or the TX200 are great choices from everything I hve read. But from experience I would highly recommend changing the spring to a Vortek or the like in 12 fpe. It will tame the “Twang” and be very consistent with a very smooth cocking and shot cycle.
I use a SWFA on my LGV Master Pro (excellent rifle btw, may want to give it a looksie) great glass and tough as nails.
Good luck
I use a SWFA on my LGV Master Pro (excellent rifle btw, may want to give it a looksie) great glass and tough as nails.
Good luck
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Thanks for the feedback, gentlemen. Keep it coming. I have seen SWFA mentioned twice. Which models exactly are you referring to? How does one know if optics are wire or etched glass reticles? UTG has let me down four times recently with broken wire reticles. No more UTG for me. A Nikon 3-9x EFR Prostaff had the reticle rotate out of position and loose rattle. I do not know if it was wire or etched glass. I have a Vortex 4-12x Crossfire II on the way to put through the RWS 34 ringer. Manufacturer rep said good to go on a springer. We will see. I got loads of Crosman .22 pellets and plenty of time!
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I personally would not hesitate to use the Vortex on a Springer. Their warranty is second to none.
The SWFAs have great warranty as well. I don’t know about the particulars of the reticle though. Maybe someone else has knowledge of that. Or you can research it.
The SWFAs have great warranty as well. I don’t know about the particulars of the reticle though. Maybe someone else has knowledge of that. Or you can research it.
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Bushnell Trophy scopes are very good airgun scopes. You won't tear one up regardless of the gun you put one on.
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I have an AA TX200, now about 14 mths old, that has several thousand rounds through it. It has been modified via the installation of a Vortek spring kit and shoots at almost exactly 14 lbs in .177. It will shoot consistent 3/8” groups at 20 yards and +/- 1 1/8 at 50. The more I shoot it the better it seems to perform.
I have mounted on it a Hawke Airmax 6-18 that has been flawless and am very pleased. I have five upper end air rifles, all with Hawke optics, and have only had one scope issue over the last two decades and Hawke replaced it instantly with no hassle at all. Highly recommend both platforms.
I have mounted on it a Hawke Airmax 6-18 that has been flawless and am very pleased. I have five upper end air rifles, all with Hawke optics, and have only had one scope issue over the last two decades and Hawke replaced it instantly with no hassle at all. Highly recommend both platforms.
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I have two SWFA fixed 16X on two of my four HW97's. They're tough as nails and reasonably priced. #3 has a Weaver Classic 4x16 and #4 has a Bushnell 4200 Elite 6 x 24.
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Here is Joe Wayne Rhea's review on the HW97KT in .177:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBj37eHhv8Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBj37eHhv8Y
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I've been shooting the HW 97 for several months now and really like it shoots great and mounted a Hawke Air Max 30 6 X 18 no problems yet!
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Hey seven08 and others,
I was just about to start a new post, but thought I'd add to yours. I also have been looking at buying a HW97k or HW97 Blackline. I'm mainly a PCP shooter but really want a quality springer in addition to my .177 HW30s. I think I will order the gun from Krale, will probably get it in .22 with the wood stock, but would love to hear what others think about this gun in .22 over .177 and wood VS synthetic. The scope info is also of interest to me since I will need a new scope for this gun. Any feedback on ordering from Krale would also be appreciated.
Thanks!
I was just about to start a new post, but thought I'd add to yours. I also have been looking at buying a HW97k or HW97 Blackline. I'm mainly a PCP shooter but really want a quality springer in addition to my .177 HW30s. I think I will order the gun from Krale, will probably get it in .22 with the wood stock, but would love to hear what others think about this gun in .22 over .177 and wood VS synthetic. The scope info is also of interest to me since I will need a new scope for this gun. Any feedback on ordering from Krale would also be appreciated.
Thanks!
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I have both wood and synthetic, .177 & .22 The wood is much nicer to me but of course is a bit heavier. Also if ther is any twang the synthetic will not deaden it like the wood will. The synthetic might be a better choice wear and weight wise if you are going to use it for hunting. My .177 I use for FT and the .22 is power tuned for hunting although I have not used it yet for that and makes 19fpe
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This point can be debated. But I would suggest always using a one piece mount on a spring gun, if your worried about the life of your scope.
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A fallow up BTW Hawke sent me a replacement for the 4 year old scope that broke no questions asked.
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You using the factory spring in that D34? If so, might want to switch to a Vortek PG2. Stock spring in my D34 took out a UTG Hunter scope but I put in a full power Vortek spring and new UTG Hunter and it's been fine for two years and 15,000 pellets. Gone through two Vortek springs but scope is still fine. Using a UTG droop weaver mount and Burris rings.
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It's on the third spring now. Currently has that Vortek and doing well. (my older 34) Got 250 shots on the new Vortex 4-12x today mounted on the new 34. Got a 25 yd. zero in 15-20 shots rested. All the rest of the shots were off hand at my various swingers. Hitting that saw blade every time now with glass back on top. See the complete story in scopes "another one bites the dust." Got that Nikon replacement today and shelved it for now. That HW 97K is on the high priority list. Oh yeah, dropped that squirrel I missed last week when the Nikon died. Might have been his cousin, though. Only shot I had was center chest up a pine..in and out, gravity took over.
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I've had luck with UTG, Hawke and Sightron scopes. I have two sightrons - an SII 6-24x42 (a mid - level model) and a 4-12 SIFT that is their entry level springer scope (about $200). It's on my .20 Beeman R10 with no problems.
I've had a lot of luck with my Hawke's - an airmax 8-32 and a Panorama 4-12. The 8-32 has been on my 97 with no problems.
The UTG"s are my go to springer scopes. Great warranty, great price, really tough, decent glass. I've only had 1 die on me - it was on a Hatsan 125 Sniper with the NPSS conversion from PA (shot 10.5's at 995 FPS). It took 3,500 shots to kill it and UTG replaced it with no questions asked. I have an 8-32 with the glass mil-dot on the way. I like the UTG"s quite a bit.
There's a lot of options out there like the Weaver V16 and Leupold's that were previously mentioned. You really can't go wrong with any of them - Hawke, UTG, Sightron, Weaver, Clearidge, etc. - you just need to find one that has the features you want and fits your budget.
Good luck - Nico
I've had a lot of luck with my Hawke's - an airmax 8-32 and a Panorama 4-12. The 8-32 has been on my 97 with no problems.
The UTG"s are my go to springer scopes. Great warranty, great price, really tough, decent glass. I've only had 1 die on me - it was on a Hatsan 125 Sniper with the NPSS conversion from PA (shot 10.5's at 995 FPS). It took 3,500 shots to kill it and UTG replaced it with no questions asked. I have an 8-32 with the glass mil-dot on the way. I like the UTG"s quite a bit.
There's a lot of options out there like the Weaver V16 and Leupold's that were previously mentioned. You really can't go wrong with any of them - Hawke, UTG, Sightron, Weaver, Clearidge, etc. - you just need to find one that has the features you want and fits your budget.
Good luck - Nico
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