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Huben Huben GK1 celebration
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Both. I have a loading gate; they would slide back into the flange & lock up if did not seat them. If I seat them, they moved forward into the barrel & locked up. I did find they are tough little boogers. I am hoping the JSB Heavy will work well. Funny today, I was liking my .22 a lot better, over 6000 rounds and not a jam. LOL
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My K1 22 with loading gate would jam with GTOs but was fine with the stock gate. Did you get any sense of their accuracy?
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For me, it’s when a projectile gets bent - usually the skirt - such that it’s hanging out the mag and catches the action. If it happens with a soft lead pellet, it can just get sheared off but when a GTO jams, it locks things up good. It happens when they are loose and pop out a bit during mag rotation as a course of the shot cycle turning the mag.
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I’m using one of Andrew’s loading gates with the JTS 25.39s and zero jams and easy loading.
Maybe I’d better install the stock loading ramp with the GTOs?
We’ll see. I’ll let y’all know which works with the GTOs.
Maybe I’d better install the stock loading ramp with the GTOs?
We’ll see. I’ll let y’all know which works with the GTOs.
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Yes, let us know. I would like to use them, but I don't like the aggravation of jams. Most of the time, my gun jammed today it dumped air. & it leaked empty, but it would air back up fine.
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Yes let us know how the GTO's shoot in .25. I have been using the JSB Exact King pellets in both the 25.39 and 33.95 with no jams using Andrew's loading gate.
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Thanks a lot for your informative feedback. It sounds like with the .25 it may or may not have the results you have had? I want to wait to hear some more feedback from others with the .25. I am using Andrew's new loading gate that allows you to insert 3 pellets and it has worked great the with JSB Exact Kings. I insert them and press them lightly with my finger afterwards to be paranoid that they are seated and had no jams.
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I find that all lead pellets tend to have some that shuffle free during mag rotation. While they may not jam, their skirts may be getting damaged. This is why I don’t like the gates. The hinges allow the pellets at the base of the mag to back out just enough to get clipped. Even if you’re not getting jams, keep a watchful eye on skirts and loosening of the pellets. The mags in the GK1 are made slightly differently, perhaps enough to keep that from happening. I’m not trying to rain on anyone’s parade but that was the cause of many flyers with the rifles. The stock gate prevents any backing out. Also worth noting that Huben has been making these guns for nigh on a decade. The main issues for would be buyers have always been (1) lack of a proper safety and (2) the faff with loading the mag. By switching to a flip up gate, which has also been around a long while, there is no doubt that Huben could have enhanced their sales. But they stuck with that original gate, even with the new pistol. Maybe they’re just lazy but on the other hand, maybe they think it just trades one issue for another.
Again, this is my 22/GTO/stock gate combo, but here’s a pic of a half shot mag. The GTOs always stay at the back with no movement forward or back. Again, no seating, just clicked in from an angle past the plastic chamfer.
Perhaps the 25 GTOs are undersized for the mag, in which case they are no bueno. But I’d like to see them tested with the stock gate before condemning them. If that works then I assure you that loading them would be just as fast as with a gate.
Again, none of this is intended to be critical of anyone’s preferences or purchases. We’re all just doing science.
And maybe there are now some better gates. I wouldn’t know…
Again, this is my 22/GTO/stock gate combo, but here’s a pic of a half shot mag. The GTOs always stay at the back with no movement forward or back. Again, no seating, just clicked in from an angle past the plastic chamfer.
Perhaps the 25 GTOs are undersized for the mag, in which case they are no bueno. But I’d like to see them tested with the stock gate before condemning them. If that works then I assure you that loading them would be just as fast as with a gate.
Again, none of this is intended to be critical of anyone’s preferences or purchases. We’re all just doing science.
And maybe there are now some better gates. I wouldn’t know…
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I'm super happy with the OEM gate, works great in my opinion ( I can only pick up one pellet at a time from the tin anyway ) I can load it fast enough for me and I like the way it works
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The western airguns are Huben clones with removable mags. Like the Leshiy 2, they have a magnetic cover on the back of the mag to stop pellets backing out. All SA guns that shoot from the mag and then rotate it are susceptible to having projectiles back out. You either need a cover or a solid backing plate all the way around. Magnets aren’t going to stop the pellets backing out of a mag turned by a blast of HP air. I don’t like to compromise that system, even if loading takes a bit more time. It’s still much better than the Leshiy system with unfolding the gun, and prizing off the cover to load 8 measly shots per mag. Changing mags is also a pain due to the roller guide. The Western mags are 170 a pop and just as much of a pain to fill and swap, with a cover that needs to be placed precisely over a set of gear teeth.
I’ll get off my soap box and return to being a magnanimous citizen. I’m glad to hear that my GK1 mentor/promoter Manny likes the stock gate.
I’ll get off my soap box and return to being a magnanimous citizen. I’m glad to hear that my GK1 mentor/promoter Manny likes the stock gate.
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In the spirit of full disclosure, my 25 Huben K1 does have a flip up gate, but only when it is shooting Altaros slugs, which are as tight in the mag as a gnats @$$.
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I've run 600 JSB lead-frees (same as the GTOs, different branding) and a similar amount of plain JSBs - so far without issues. No clicking, flip up loading gate. This is in .25.
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