Higher energy Bullpups and >100 yard shooting rest systems?

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mackeral5

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Those that are shooting bullpups at higher energy levels, bullpups that recoil, at longer ranges, what rest systems are you using? Most slug shooters in the 70+ fpe range I would assume encounter similar recoil. I have a .25 that is currently tuned just under 85fpe and it can be a handful with my current setup, which is just a Tack Driver under the pressure tube...

I would like something that does a better job at assisting in keeping the gun vertical. Virtually all of my shooting is rested on my truck's bed cover, standing and leaning against the bedside.

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I was researching many options last year for my .25 cal dedicated BR Impact MK2, what I liked the most those options were the longest wait time. Last winter I decided to build diy a one-piece-rest. Couple of revisions later this became my best investment for 100 meters BR. No matter even if you buy, you will alter it to your preferences...and convenience.
 
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id use a caldwell turret rest, almost as steady as a bag, heavy, an no way the gun will tip, its clamped in, and the buttrest works well, movement is smooth also .. only issue on mine was the buttrest adjustment was stiff, i worked on for awhile and got it nice though .. its my favorite rest .. its just short and heavy and has a fairly large footprint so is alittle limited, should be perfect for what your doing though ..
 
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mackeral5 said:
Those that are shooting bullpups at higher energy levels, bullpups that recoil, at longer ranges, what rest systems are you using? Most slug shooters in the 70+ fpe range I would assume encounter similar recoil. I have a .25 that is currently tuned just under 85fpe and it can be a handful with my current setup, which is just a Tack Driver under the pressure tube...

I would like something that does a better job at assisting in keeping the gun vertical. Virtually all of my shooting is rested on my truck's bed cover, standing and leaning against the bedside.

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Not sure what to suggest in keeping your gun vertical?
 
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I found this pic on Google images, not my pic, but it shows the rest I am going to test next.

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I have that turret, it works well but is too tall for me. It’s also heavy which is good and bad. Makes a good vise to hold a gun to work on.
I keep coming back to a good bipod and rear bag.
 
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Scotty1 said:
I have that turret, it works well but is too tall for me. It’s also heavy which is good and bad. Makes a good vise to hold a gun to work on.
I keep coming back to a good bipod and rear bag.
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It arrived and I did a bit of testing today. Initial thoughts are, agreed on the too high for using on my truck bed cover....
I do like the turret's vise. I can see that being helpful for maintenance.

I like the weight, and the legs are angled as such that it is easy to add sandbags to more firmly hold in place.

The adjustable rear support is a bit chincy, too flexible. I will likely remove it.

This may be what I need, I just need to make/find a small, stout table that I can easily move in/out of my shop, preferably one that will fold/collapse.
 
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I've only shot a few times at 100 yards and none of my airguns are even 50 fpe. Mostly I've been shooting the 30 yard challenge which is a benchrest game. I attached a couple pictures of my home made portable shooting rest that I use at home and away from home. It could be sturdier but it works. The legs are 3/4 water pipe that screw into flanges which sit on angled 2/4 pieces to slant the legs. The top is 3/4 plywood. There are slightly over 1/2 pieces of PVC tubing that the legs snap into for transport. Not hard to make if you are handy. I also attached a picture of my Ajoite UUQ bipod (about $75 when I got it) and home made windage and elevation adjustable monopod. The bipod only goes down to about 8 inches. It adjusts nicely for cant. The monopod attaches using a "uncle Mike's" type sling swivel base in the stock. I weld 2 1/4 all thread couplers together which is ground to fit tightly in the sling base. There is a brass knurled nut on a little piece of all thread that is twisted to make elevation adjustments. The windage piece is basically another couple couplers welded in a T shape and moved back and forth by a longer piece of 1/4 all thread. If you like to tinker, this isn't very hard to make and works well. But you only need the windage adjustable part if you want to shoot benchrest targets (and some are patient enough to just use a monopod and shift it when needed).

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Thank you to all whom responded and shared ideas. I wanted to share an update to this one.

Ultimately I had to stop using my truck bed cover as a rest. It worked fine for <40fpe, but anything over that there were just too many moving parts, including the bedcover flexing up and down due to recoil.

The Caldwell Precision Turret, is functional, but far from "precise." The adjustable grip support is a joke, it is flimsy, too flexible. Adding sandbags helps keep the rest steady under recoil when shooting above 40fpe or so. The vise portion works well, I typically clamp the front of the pressure tube and rest the butt on a sandbag.

I do plan to build/buy some form of adjustable rear rest at some point in the near future.

After a bit of research I stumbled across something from Steven/AVS slugs. Some time ago Steven shared a video of using a miter saw stand as the base for creating a shooting bench. I liked his concept and made a few changes. I always needed a miter saw stand but never justified buying one until now.

I ordered a Wen miter saw stand from Home depot and used odds and ends I already had "in stock." The leg extensions are 24" galvanized legs used on commercial stainless steel tables. They are a perfect fit inside of the Wen stand's legs. The only permanent modification to the miter stand itself was drilling the through hole in each leg for the 2" snap pins. The leg extensions are drilled every 4 inches, height adjusts approx 32-48" or so, I've never measured it. Each leg has an adjustable foot for leveling. The current height setting is perfect for both shooting and miter sawing, for someone of similar size as myself, just over 6' tall.

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The top itself is still a work in process, its shape has changed a bit since the above photo. I keep a sheet or 2 of OSB around for various reasons so I just glued 2 layers together. I may keep the OSB and cover it with 2 part epoxy. The top is easily removed with 4 thumbscrews.

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This all prompted me to create a new 100 yard shooting lane so I can shoot from inside my shop.

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I also picked up one of these hi/low shooting tables from MTN Caseguard. It is very lightweight, easy to transport/setup. Surprisingly stable for something so lightweight. It is very functional, I can see it being used for various activities other than shooting.


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