Hey guys as some of you may know I have been training my little girl to shoot this last year with a p700w and and ancient osprey red dot. I couldn't be more proud of her. She is very accurate, patient and finnaly after a year I am confident that she has the safety rules down pat. Anyway I am surprising her with a talonp that I am currently building in 20 cal. I am tuning it down with the ring lock system and stickman77 gave me a great deal on his bottle and stock from his escape. My question is what ldc would be best? I am thinking strongly of wolf airguns 30mm diameter ldc in 25 cal. I use a 25 cal donny on all my airguns and they seem to work fine even for 177. Does it make it much quieter to buy the 177? What do you guys think? I was hoping to get a better deal than a donny but if I have to I will. Are the wolf ldc any good? Should I just go with one of those cheap Crosman ldc? All ideas are welcome here! Thanks dudes.