Hawke Sidewinder FFP 4-16x50 parallax issue?

[Jay308]

I’m not sure what is actually going on but I took out as much reticle movement as possible. Lets say I shoot 2 mags out of the Ghost and they hit poa exactly, then I load 3rd and then poi is 1/8-1/4” up and left, as soon as I adjust the turrets it hits perfect to poa again. Load the 4th and it’s off exactly the amount I dialed on the 3rd mag, adjust turret again, perfect poa hits again.

This order can be on any mag load, the key is me breaking my cheek weld to load a mag, but I have moved my check weld when it’s off and makes no difference, until I adjust the turrets. I never had this issue with my Athlon HERAS 2-12 SF on my Maverick. I may mount that to the Ghost.

Anyone had something like this happen? Suggestions? 20 yards for this test.

 

[JimmyV]

Want to sell it?

 

[Jay308]

@JEFFPPC help

 

[boscoebrea]

what makes you think it is the scope?

 

[Nattboy]

Send it to Hawke. The will fix it or send you a new one. I have a Hawke scope that would lose adjustment. I sent to Hawke and they fixed it. No more problems. The only cost to me was shipping to them. They shipped it back a week later and they paid for the shipping.

 

[Jay308]

what makes you think it is the scope?

I’m not sure but it’s only thing that makes sense, the rilfe puts 5 shots is one hole most of the time. My TX200, you have to break cheek weld every time to cock and no issues. It’s like the reticle is not where you are aiming but the back and forth to the same settings is strange.

 

[JEFFPPC]

2 easy ways to check. First have someone else shoot it. Second try a different scope. Since I am not a PCP guy, never shot one, I don't know how fussy they are. I do know thr more your on the gun thr more likely you are to influence it. There is a reason why many benchrest shooters shoot free recoil or only touching the rifle with their trigger finger. It is hos I shoot off the bench. Even when I must hold the gun I keep my cheek off the stock. My guns have high scope mounts. First I would retorque base screws, 25 inch pounds, then ring to base screws, 25 in pounds , then ring screws 17 inch pounds. D on't forget, have you focused the scope properly. Set parallex to infinity then look at the sky or a blank wall and acjust the rear lens until cross hairs are black and sharp. Then look at your target and use parallex adjustment to focus on the target. Once all is sharp slightly move your head to be sure crosshairs stay still. If they don't it will require slightly tweaking the parallel adjustment one way or the other until the crosshairs stay still with slight head adjustment.Remember that in the world of scopes these are not high end and can be a bit fussy getting adjusted for parallel and focus, a bit trying at times.

 

[Jay308]

2 easy ways to check. First have someone else shoot it. Second try a different scope. Since I am not a PCP guy, never shot one, I don't know how fussy they are. I do know thr more your on the gun thr more likely you are to influence it. There is a reason why many benchrest shooters shoot free recoil or only touching the rifle with their trigger finger. It is hos I shoot off the bench. Even when I must hold the gun I keep my cheek off the stock. My guns have high scope mounts. First I would retorque base screws, 25 inch pounds, then ring to base screws, 25 in pounds , then ring screws 17 inch pounds. D on't forget, have you focused the scope properly. Set parallex to infinity then look at the sky or a blank wall and acjust the rear lens until cross hairs are black and sharp. Then look at your target and use parallex adjustment to focus on the target. Once all is sharp slightly move your head to be sure crosshairs stay still. If they don't it will require slightly tweaking the parallel adjustment one way or the other until the crosshairs stay still with slight head adjustment.Remember that in the world of scopes these are not high end and can be a bit fussy getting adjusted for parallel and focus, a bit trying at times.

Yes it’s in Seekins rings, 30 in/lbs base and 15 in/lbs rings. I double checked parallax and then put my Athalon on a piece of wood and adjusted parallax and got the same almost still reticle. I know you have had a “few” Hawke scopes and didn’t know if you ever ran into this? I guess I will mount up the Athlon Heras and give it a go.

 

[Pfddi]

@Jay308 - I have had a parallax issue with one of my Hawkes and sent it back. They replaced it for me. I just sent them another - both Airmax on SFP (parallax issue) and the other FFP - windage adjustment made did not move the reticle on the FFP at all. They are returning the FFP tomorrow. Have had no problem with them checking out my problem and sending another scope. Great customer service.

 

[Jay308]

@Jay308 - I have had a parallax issue with one of my Hawkes and sent it back. They replaced it for me. I just sent them another - both Airmax on SFP (parallax issue) and the other FFP - windage adjustment made did not move the reticle on the FFP at all. They are returning the FFP tomorrow. Have had no problem with them checking out my problem and sending another scope. Great customer service.

Thanks for the info. I mounted the Athlon, going to shoot tomorrow. If it’s consistent, I’ll box up the SW. Just a hard thing to troubleshoot.

 

[JEFFPPC]

Yes it’s in Seekins rings, 30 in/lbs base and 15 in/lbs rings. I double checked parallax and then put my Athalon on a piece of wood and adjusted parallax and got the same almost still reticle. I know you have had a “few” Hawke scopes and didn’t know if you ever ran into this? I guess I will mount up the Athlon Heras and give it a go.

The only problem I had was with the parallex freezing at one yardage with the Airmax which seems to be a problem with them from the feedback I recieved on here. My 2 sfp Sidewiinders have been flawless.

 

[Jay308]

I shot with the Athlon but the windage didn’t move the poi until almost a full rotation, wtf. It’s not far from optical center either. No more cheap Chinese scopes for this guy.

I got it sighted in and I didn’t have any real shifts after 60 shots. I guess I’ll remount the SW and run the turrets from max to min and set in the middle and turn the parallax from max to min a few times and re-test the SW and then send it in, if it still acts up.