N/A Has there ever been a multi pump air pistol that can achieve 700+ fps in .22 caliber ?

[1000fps]

out of the box ?

If not, I wonder why no company has entered into that type of market ?

Id love to purchase a air pistol that can do 700+ fps, in .22 with 8 -10 pumps and also has a a 8-10 shot magazine, that self loads with a bolt action lever/system.

 

[airgunmike56]

I think my Zoraki HP Ultra fits the bill, I think with four pumps it was very close to 700FPS with a light 22 pellet
Cant find my notes and I have the PCP 750 and the Huben pistol so I set the Zoraki down and not missed with it in over a year,,
Mike

 

[1000fps]

I think my Zoraki HP Ultra fits the bill, I think with four pumps it was very close to 700FPS with a light 22 pellet
Cant find my notes and I have the PCP 750 and the Huben pistol so I set the Zoraki down and not missed with it in over a year,,
Mike

11.9 Gr pellet and it got 700 FPS , WITH 4 PUMPS ?

 

[MrP]

The Zoraki only takes a small number of pumps if I recall. I don’t know if 4 pumps is full power or not but it is close.

 

[SteveV]

Sounds like a unicorn to me, you'll have better luck reaching those numbers with a hpa conversion, running at 2000 psi, hand pump friendly -

Not trying to hijack, just a suggestion

 

[1000fps]

I wonder why , no company, has come out with a multi pump air pistol, capable of 700+ fps in .22 caliber with a multishot magazine bolt action pellet fed ?

If the ZORAKI is able to get 450-550 fps in .22, with 4 pumps , I would think it would not be difficult for a company to make a .22 caliber air pistol with a slightly larger air chamber to hold enough air to get to the 700 fps area with 6-10 pumps ? I really like the idea of a 6-10 shot magazine in such a pistol. No need to fumble around with 1 pellet loading after each shot. IMHO, 700+ fps in .22 caliber, is the sweet spot for humanely killing game slightly larger then sparrows , chipmunks, etc .

 

[1000fps]

I think my Zoraki HP Ultra fits the bill, I think with four pumps it was very close to 700FPS with a light 22 pellet
Cant find my notes and I have the PCP 750 and the Huben pistol so I set the Zoraki down and not missed with it in over a year,,
Mike

I looked on youtube...it looks like, with 4 pumps in .22 , it gets around 540 FPS. ..or around 9 fpe. I would think with todays technology, some company could improve upon this in a multi-pump air pistol , making it more humane to dispatch large squirrels , larger birds, etc. I personally would be willing to pay $300-$400 for a accurate multi pump .22 air pistol that can get to the 12 fpe area that also has a magazine that loads/holds 6-10 pellets . I wonder if such a pistol would be a big seller ?

Dont get me wrong, I think the crossman 1322 is a great value for $70, but I think it is outdated with it being a single pellet load setup and only getting around 400 fps in .22 caliber. Im kinda surprised that Crossman has not decided to do a major update on that classic pistol that has been around for decades.

 

[marflow 777]

the reality on the Zoraki HP-01-2 Ultra is, 4 pumps is nearly impossible, oh it can be done but after 1 or 2 tries you will be doing 3 and after a while you will be at 2
https://www.google.com/search?q=zor...e=ive&vld=cid:4a21987a,vid:iDzxpRffYck,st:454

 

[1000fps]

Im also surprised, no company has come out with a multi pump air rifle, capable of 800+ fps in .22 that has a mutli shot magazine holding 6-10 pellets that loads via a bolt action.

It seems like the PCP airguns has took over the industry and companies are not coming up with new more powerful ideas for multi pump pistols/ air rifles.

 

[SteveV]

Well, check this one out -

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[1000fps]

Well, check this one out -

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Yes, I own it....but its not reliable and unfortunaely, you gotta pump it/ fill it with 80-120 pumps to get near full power.

 

[SteveV]

Sounds to me like you have repeatedly answered your own question, but do carry on -

 

[marflow 777]

some rabbit holes only go so deep and then no advancement can be made and that is where multi pump guns are

 

[Coolhand]

FX did it in 30 caliber, so it's possible. Just saying.

 

[1000fps]

some rabbit holes only go so deep and then no advancement can be made and that is where multi pump guns are

Im not buying that. If a manufacturer thought there was significant profit potential, im confident they can improve upon the decades old designs of the 1377- 1322 crosman pumpers. Hell, I remeber reading back in the 1980s, that the beeman P1 was the most one could expect in obtaining 500fps in .177 caliber with a springer pistol. Ive got a magnum diana springer that can get 650 fps with .22 pellets.

 

[1000fps]

FX did it in 30 caliber, so it's possible. Just saying.

do you have a link to that pistol ? ty

 

[1000fps]

I wonder if anyone has been able to modify the crosman 1322 , so it can achieve 600-700 fps with 10-15 pumps using a 12.9 Gr pellet ?

Years ago, I did modify my 1377 and was able to get it to shoot 7.9 Gr pellets around 580+ fps. I modified the air chamber/ valve and put a longer barrel on it.

 

[airgunner53]

I'm working on attaining that too. There comes a point where reliability may be a factor. The seneca aspen is great if you change the o-rings but the fix is not for the faint of heart. I love building the crosman platforms and have made some awesome builds. Just a few I've made. 1322 with extensive valve work and yes, a plastic piston with pump cup. 556 with 15.49 .22 and a10 inch barrel at 16 pumps.

1322 with m-4 tube 14 inch barrel modified valve and flat top piston. The piston needs a bit of adjusting and needs one more mod to make it virtually zero headspace 14 pumps w/15.49 .22

I once built a 2100 13xx with a 14 inch .22 barrel and could be used as a large pistol. Lots of valve work and flat top. Eventually wore out the pump arm and tube pivot hole do to my poor work at adjustment on the piston. That one shot 14.9 gains at 620 fps at 10 pumps. Crosman has the parts but volume is key. Also wanted a zoraki but heard the pumping was a bear.

 

[JDGriz]

Power out = power in * efficiency

Everything is possible but not with just 4 pumps, unless the force at the end of each the pump stroke is something like 40kg/90lbs (for example).

 

[Hold_Over]

I looked on youtube...it looks like, with 4 pumps in .22 , it gets around 540 FPS. ..or around 9 fpe. I would think with todays technology, some company could improve upon this in a multi-pump air pistol , making it more humane to dispatch large squirrels , larger birds, etc. I personally would be willing to pay $300-$400 for a accurate multi pump .22 air pistol that can get to the 12 fpe area that also has a magazine that loads/holds 6-10 pellets . I wonder if such a pistol would be a big seller ?

Dont get me wrong, I think the crossman 1322 is a great value for $70, but I think it is outdated with it being a single pellet load setup and only getting around 400 fps in .22 caliber. Im kinda surprised that Crossman has not decided to do a major update on that classic pistol that has been around for decades.

Multi pump and fast loading bolt action mags don't seem to go together for me. Being able to quickly chamber the next round and then still have to pump 8-10 times doesn't get you to a follow up shot much faster