Glass for r8
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I believe that you will want more magnification than 9 for an Air Rifle but that is just me. I use a Hawke 4-16 x 44 mm IR, SF compact scope on my HW95.
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Clearidge Ultra RM 3-9X32 with the target dot reticle. In GLOSS black.
Ultralight, tough, clear, and affordable while being Japan made.
Ultralight, tough, clear, and affordable while being Japan made.
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I hope they make it in matte again.
I like the size and weight of the RM line.
I do have 2 in silver.
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I called my order in and asked if they we're discontinued, or going out of business or whatever. They told me they have just not been able to get their products from Japan with the Covid stuff. They have their orders in for the scopes, just waiting on the Japanese to get them built.
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Once I received my fully tuned R8 back from Paul Watts I installed a Burris Timberline 4.5-14X with the ballistic plex reticle ( I like this reticle). Small, lightweight and focuses down to 7 yards.
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Thank you for the information, sir.
I would like an RM matte with Duplex Dot reticle.
You know, I do believe Clearidge is Optics Zone because that is what the mailing box said when I got my first RM, which I ordered from Clearidge and not from Optics Zone.
Yes, they are indeed the same company with the same address (checked it just now):
https://www.clearidgeoptics.com/about-us-s/1821.htm
https://www.theopticzone.com/
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Once I received my fully tuned R8 back from Paul Watts I installed a Burris Timberline 4.5-14X with the ballistic plex reticle ( I like this reticle). Small, lightweight and focuses down to 7 yards.
Another good scope but no longer in production.
I was able to peer through one when I was still in Asia, and it was very clear.
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The R8 or R6 is the HW50S from my knowledge.
I have the Swarovski Z3 3-9X 40mm over my HW50S in .20 while the other HW50S .20 I have left with the cog front sight and u notch rear.
There is enough recoil and "counter" recoil in the HW50S to ruin most scopes over time.
The scope I have on the HW50S .20 is the most expensive scope I have in my current inventory and it holds true; but in time any scope on top of an HW50S will break unless you have the Diana Zero Recoil mount and rings.
Eventually, I am scoping the open sighted HW50S with a Diana Zero Recoil mount; and then I will choose any scope to survive in that rifle until kingdom come.
In the meanwhile, the Swarovski scope is still in operation upon the HW50S with no mounts and rings except the Sport's Match and no trouble.
But even I worry about the Swarovsky scope upon the HW50S .20 without ZR mounts, because air rifle springers will ruin any scope in TIME so getting the ZR is a NECESSITY for HW50S.
Now, your "rare" r8 is not an R9 or HW98 and I have ZR mounts on my HW98s all three to keep zero and not wreck the scope no matter how much you pay or whatever company guarantees a replacement etc.
Never worry again with a true Diana Zero Recoil mount and rings with ANY scope you decide to put in those rings. It will be preserved forever with just the recoilless system.
I have the Swarovski Z3 3-9X 40mm over my HW50S in .20 while the other HW50S .20 I have left with the cog front sight and u notch rear.
There is enough recoil and "counter" recoil in the HW50S to ruin most scopes over time.
The scope I have on the HW50S .20 is the most expensive scope I have in my current inventory and it holds true; but in time any scope on top of an HW50S will break unless you have the Diana Zero Recoil mount and rings.
Eventually, I am scoping the open sighted HW50S with a Diana Zero Recoil mount; and then I will choose any scope to survive in that rifle until kingdom come.
In the meanwhile, the Swarovski scope is still in operation upon the HW50S with no mounts and rings except the Sport's Match and no trouble.
But even I worry about the Swarovsky scope upon the HW50S .20 without ZR mounts, because air rifle springers will ruin any scope in TIME so getting the ZR is a NECESSITY for HW50S.
Now, your "rare" r8 is not an R9 or HW98 and I have ZR mounts on my HW98s all three to keep zero and not wreck the scope no matter how much you pay or whatever company guarantees a replacement etc.
Never worry again with a true Diana Zero Recoil mount and rings with ANY scope you decide to put in those rings. It will be preserved forever with just the recoilless system.
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These were unknown to me, thanks for posting!
Good glass, amazing price, and offering AO the old fashi0oned way, so they feel a little retro as compared to all the popular air rifle scopes. Seems a perfect match for a slightly retro "springer" with real wood stocks. I suspect one may adorn my R9 some time soon...
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I believe that you will want more magnification than 9 for an Air Rifle but that is just me. I use a Hawke 4-16 x 44 mm IR, SF compact scope on my HW95.
This is what's on my R9 now,. what mounts did you use? I am not too sure about the solution I ended up with.
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I used Hawke 2 piece tactical medium rings which have been great so far. https://us.hawkeoptics.com/tactical-ring-mounts-30mm-2-piece-9-11mm-medium.html
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Email ANY scope company and ask if they will still honor the warranty using a Diana Z mount on a NON springer/piston rated scope. Let us know...
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These were unknown to me, thanks for posting!
Good glass, amazing price, and offering AO the old fashi0oned way, so they feel a little retro as compared to all the popular air rifle scopes. Seems a perfect match for a slightly retro "springer" with real wood stocks. I suspect one may adorn my R9 some time soon...
They are rated for springers, too, but they are on my custom PCP's:
I am getting a 3rd one, probably the the 14x XP, but I may just go silver RM again, as I really like silver scopes.
Their finish is flawless like my guns
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WEIHRAUCH CONFUSION.
Hermann (Han’s) Weihrauch’s favorite rifle was purported to be the OLD/Original HW50. Maybe that’s why Weihrauch continues to harvest the energy that this model has built up. The R8 was based on the Original HW 50, which was HW's first post-war rifle, made until the late 90's.
The Beeman R6 was the last Beeman R gun and was a rebadged HW99. Slightly smaller than the R8 but larger than the R7. The R6 did not have the Gary Goudy influenced stock like the R8 does. The HW99 can still be purchased. The HW99 was later rebadged as the NEW HW50 (not to be confused with the OLD HW50 that was Hermann Weihrauch’s favorite.
The HW99/NEW HW50/R6 is more powerful than the OLD/Original HW50/R8.
The differences between the old HW50 (R8) and the new HW50 (R6) are:
Old one: threaded end plug like on the R1
New one: press in end plug like on the R9
The piston and chamber are different diameters, The old 50S used the same 25mm piston and seal that the R-8 did. The newer HW50 (aka HW-99 until recently) uses a 26mm piston diameter and seal. The tube sizes are identical in these two guns it’s the id that differs. The newer HW50 tube is thinner. The new HW50 also has much shorter transfer port.
Very confusing to me that Weihrauch produced two very different HW50 models.
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Correct - as Kevin has so well described, the new and old HW 50 are completely different rifles.
The original model 50 was actually Weihrauch's first air gun, possibly commemorating the date of its introduction (ca. 1950). It was made for about 50 years, and appeared in all sorts of variants over the years - short and long threaded-on rear receiver, several different designs of trigger, sights, seals, stocks, etc., etc. HW's other older models shared a lot of DNA with this gun: the HW 55 match rifle's action was simply a 50 with a new locking breech, and the HW 35 has the same length receiver tube, though larger in diameter. The "Beeman R8" was the original HW 50 action with safety, plastic seals, and a unique stock.
The current HW 50 was introduced about 1999. It was originally called the HW 99 in Europe (and still sold under that name in the UK). The "Beeman R6" was a completely un-modified early model HW 99.
The HW 99 was renamed "HW 50" for Germany sometime after the original gun went out of production. So, perhaps "cultural" marketing at play: the Brits see it as a new design, but the Germans prefer having an "improved" version of an old favorite, LOL? Confusing to collectors for sure though! (And kind of a German "thing," too; HW's rivals at Diana have never been shy about recycling model names.)
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