Tuning General Operational and Math Question

Didn't they shoot the exhaust port on the Death Star?

I'm not sure what that terminology references on an airgun, either. None of my airguns have anything with that name, at least, not in the factory manuals. PCP's usually have something so you can release the air pressure without shooting, perhaps that's the reference. But it's usually called a pressure relief valve, or something like that.

I don't tune for specific energy levels. I mainly tune for "backyard safety" "noise" and then speed (up) if I can, but if accuracy tails off I stop. But all I do is pest.
 
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I sure wish I knew where the Komplete was manufactured. If it was made by Hammerli in Germany with a Walther barrel I'd buy a Inspire Precision air cylinder and a .177 Komplete from Pyramid Air to test.

Would be interested in seeing if a $330 air rifle could compete competively in FT.

https://inspireprecisionairguns.com/products/umarex-komplete-refillable-tank-solution
I made my own unit to use temporarily until the Inspire Precision unit gets here, hopefully by Friday. If you want to see some targets from a .22 Komplete, go here: https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=219436.20 They seem to shoot above their pay grade.
 
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Didn't they shoot the exhaust port on the Death Star?

I'm not sure what that terminology references on an airgun, either. None of my airguns have anything with that name, at least, not in the factory manuals. PCP's usually have something so you can release the air pressure without shooting, perhaps that's the reference. But it's usually called a pressure relief valve, or something like that.

I don't tune for specific energy levels. I mainly tune for "backyard safety" "noise" and then speed (up) if I can, but if accuracy tails off I stop. But all I do is pest.
Degassing port.
 
I am new to airguns; what is an SSG? Also the gun in question is the inexpensive, Komplete. It is regulated at 1800 psi, though I have no way to verify it. I am very happy with it and am just trying to learn different ways of tuning it for higher power. Right now I'm getting about 32 fpe with HAWKi 25.3 grn pellets, which is fine for what I intended it for, but I couldn't reconcile the shorter barrel performing better than the longer barrel gun, everything thing else being equal, almost (I don't know the regulated pressure of the short-barreled gun.). But, what you appear to be telling me is that the pressure is much greater, 2900 psi, in the unregulated gun you have, and that is how your extra energy is accomplished (?
SSG is the acronym for "Spring Stopping Guide," which is a device used to manage the energy in the hammer spring after the shot is taken. One of the things that can happen with PCPs that use mechanical knock open valves (which is most of them) is that after the shot, that valve closes quickly and the hammer gets pushed back against the spring with enough force to create a gap to the poppet, and then the hammer spring pushes the hammer back against the poppet with some force - less than a full shot, but often enough to cause the valve to open a bit and burp out a bit of air. This tendency gets worse with unregulated guns as the pressure drops in the reservoir, as the valve poppet is being held closed with decreasing force on each subsequent shot. Of course this burping results in wasted air and a louder shot than is really needed - it can get real bad as the pressure drops further, to the point that one can hear successive burps after the shot.

The SSG is a way of "capturing" the spring such that it does not occupy the full space behind the hammer, resulting in a bit of "free flight" for the hammer to have when the shot occurs. This tends to result in the hammer just bouncing off the stiff spring stack (stiffer than normal since the spring is held is slight compression by the SSG)when the valve closes, and it does not gain enough energy to knock the valve back open. Most guns don't contain these devices when new as they complicate the tuning process (more things to have to set and adjust), so they tend to be done by owners and tuners.

There are other ways of doing it, such as the SSS (Short Stiff Spring) that simply leaves space for free flight on it's own.

Here is what my SSG for the Air Ranger looks like - it has the advantage of being fully internal to the gun, so it is not seen - most SSGs result in having some part of them sticking out the rear if the gun when cocked, but I designed mine to not do that. I also attached the test results I came up with after I installed it, and you can see the gains in air efficiency that resulted, sith more gains on the back end of the shot string than on the front end (as one would expect from the physics involved in these).

One trade off that occured from adding in the SSG was that the shot to shot variation is speed increased a bit, even though the extreme spread in the sting did not - so I have a little higher standard deviation with it than without it, but the ES is the same. This makes sense, as the SSG adds another variable into the system that was not there before. The result is a little more variation in speed across the sweet spot of the tune than before, with the gains being in efficiency, shot count, and a quieter shot. There is no free lunch in any of this stuff . . .

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Also, being new to airguns, what exhaust port ( I plead ignorance)? I thought the barrel was the "exhaust port" after the pellet exited.
The reference to the exhaust port was talking about the air flow path out of the valve and into the barrel behind the projectile. The dimensions (as well as number of bends/changes in airflow direction) matter in the power and efficiency of our airguns.

Most guns have two 90 degree turns for the air to make, with the notable exception being the AirForce guns - those use a straight flow path which is more efficient, with a trade off on ergonomics (again, from an earlier post - no free lunch).

The cross sectional area matters in terms of both how fast the air can flow to the projectile, as well as how well - a larger diameter lets more air flow, but also leads to a greater initial pressure drop as the air exits the valve after the poppet. All this needs to be balanced. Generally, to get more power out of lower pressure air one needs a larger cross section to handle the air flow than would be needed to get the same power out of a higher pressure air flow.

The exhaust port is also sometimes referred to as a transfer port (a small "tube" that connects the valve to the barrel), and another key element of the exhaust port is the "throat" of the valve, which is the area immediately after the poppet where the air flows to as it exits the valve - then it generally make a 90 degree turn into the exhaust port, flows through the transfer port, and then into the barrel where it turns again (in most cases). Some guns flow the air through the probe that seats the pellet, some use the probe to help direct the air flow to the pellet (the Gen 1 .25 caliber Marauder had this design), and others use multiple flow points into the barrel often around a device known as a thimble (the FX high power slug guns tend to use this, as do other high power guns).

Hope this helps - there is a lot to learn in this world if you really want to dive into it . . .
 
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