I live in Portugal. Luckily we’re permitted to own 24 Joule/18 ft/lb rifles without a permit. I bought a Gamo Hunter 440 IGT and a Cometa Fenix 400 GP Compact. Both are supposed to deliver 24 joules but honestly the Gamo whilst not in the same league as far as quality is concerned just smashes the Cometa on the range... anyone know why there is such a difference in performance?
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From my experience Gamo barrels are spot on in my springers. I’ve had inaccurate guns before and can tell when the barrel just isn’t up to par. I wish I knew their operations or could better investigate. Bergara is also in Spain and known for their barrels but I HATE to admit this but I’ve honestly had better Remington barrels for less then half the cost. If you like the gun, look into putting a GRT on it and you’ll be amazed at the difference BTW the Hunter 440 is discontinued here in America I think, wonder if you have something like what we’d call a whisper IGT. Pics would be nice
I just purchased another Gamo today for testing and tuning. Hope it arrives soon
I got one a long time ago and was surprised so now I’m certainly “on one” as I believe the kids say.
I just purchased another Gamo today for testing and tuning. Hope it arrives soon
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You are so right... the Gamo barrel is perfect, deadly accurate...right out to 60 metres with open sights.... like shooting with a .22lr... the muzzle blast is similar too which I just love.
The build quality of the Cometa is way out there in a class of its own, every bit as good if not better than any break barrel coming out of Germany... you can see and feel it is workshop built by craftsmen not churned out like a widget as in the Gamo... but Cometa are making completely false claims about muzzle velocity and that annoys me because i based my purchase on a claimed velocity of 275 m/s which is nonsense...
The build quality of the Cometa is way out there in a class of its own, every bit as good if not better than any break barrel coming out of Germany... you can see and feel it is workshop built by craftsmen not churned out like a widget as in the Gamo... but Cometa are making completely false claims about muzzle velocity and that annoys me because i based my purchase on a claimed velocity of 275 m/s which is nonsense...
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Funny you mentioned a 22lr. I once had a shoot off at a hillbilly range of 50 yards (I expect it wasn’t quite 50) between my old gamo accu and my step dads Ruger 10/22 ... I won.
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Funny the Cometa has a good reputation for Accuracy, change pellets/ head sizes and tighten all bolts...
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Interesting thread. All the people I follow always like Gamo, and I don’t. Makes me want to go out and buy a Gamo.
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I’ve never bought one from Walmart though and I think that might matter. I always look on forum classifieds and ask how it shoots. That might make a difference too. Their bluing is obviously not the best and taking them apart it’s obvious that it’s not finely machined but good enough for sure.
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Gamo barrels are good. Just The rest of the gun are at times temperamental to deal with. Same with Crosman but their Barrels are the questionable factor while the power plants are good.
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The Gamo doesn’t scream quality... the SAT trigger unit for example seems cheap however it’s still going strong after 5000 shots. The beech stock is basic and the chequering is pretty poor on one section. But at only 6 1/2 lbs with precision truglo open sights the shooting experience is close to .22 rimfire. The power and accuracy are phenomenal but I can’t see this being something I’ll be handing down to my grandchildren .. it’s just not got that kind of build quality..
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Might have something to do with the power level, and the harmonics associated.
Gamo hunter 440 is more of a mid power gun. Shorter stroke, less “spring”. Might be easier to master than the Cometa.
That Cometa, in my opinion, is a true magnum springer and capable of probably 50% more power than a Gamo hunter 440.
Cometa have done a great job putting together a quality magnum springer, that isn’t too heavy, and is well balanced, without sacrificing quality of worksmanship/materials.
My opinion, for what it is worth- my favorite springer of all time is my “old school” .177 Gamo whisper. It drives tacks with RWS SuperMag.
Old school Whisper has the best combination of power, weight, and balance of any spring gun I have used. Also does not have any of the shortcomings of the new crop of Gamo breakbarrels, with regards to the pivot or plastic trigger.
It’s no Weihrauch but it is a perfect field gun.
Gamo hunter 440 is more of a mid power gun. Shorter stroke, less “spring”. Might be easier to master than the Cometa.
That Cometa, in my opinion, is a true magnum springer and capable of probably 50% more power than a Gamo hunter 440.
Cometa have done a great job putting together a quality magnum springer, that isn’t too heavy, and is well balanced, without sacrificing quality of worksmanship/materials.
My opinion, for what it is worth- my favorite springer of all time is my “old school” .177 Gamo whisper. It drives tacks with RWS SuperMag.
Old school Whisper has the best combination of power, weight, and balance of any spring gun I have used. Also does not have any of the shortcomings of the new crop of Gamo breakbarrels, with regards to the pivot or plastic trigger.
It’s no Weihrauch but it is a perfect field gun.
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You make some excellent points... the quality and finish of the Cometa are sublime. I’ve never seen a stock like it on a €250.00 gun... it’s like something you get on a decent shotgun.. great figuring. It is a joy to use with virtually no recoil and very very quiet. The gun looks and feels like a high quality product that will still be going strong in 20 years time...
The Gamo 440 is a real beast however in terms of range and penetration... it still packs a real punch at 100 yards. I don’t have access to a chronograph but I’d love to see ft/s and ft/lbs... it would definitely require a firearms certificate in the U.K. and it if you had neighbours it would annoy the hell out of them with its rimfire muzzle blast... it’s a pity the Cometa cannot compete with it ...
The Gamo 440 is a real beast however in terms of range and penetration... it still packs a real punch at 100 yards. I don’t have access to a chronograph but I’d love to see ft/s and ft/lbs... it would definitely require a firearms certificate in the U.K. and it if you had neighbours it would annoy the hell out of them with its rimfire muzzle blast... it’s a pity the Cometa cannot compete with it ...
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Your 440 is far different then our old 440 I think. Is yours like this: https://www.aceros-de-hispania.com/gamo-airguns/carabine-hunter-440-asigt.asp?product=carabina-hunter440-asigt
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Yes, that is exactly the Gamo I have but in .22......and without doubt it is a true 24 Joule gun as described.
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We don’t have that model available. It does appear your muzzle break it about as useless as the ones we have though. I hate gamo’s “whisper” brake. I remove the baffles right away. Soon I’ll be experimenting with muzzle weights on my CFR. It would be interesting to get the manufactures to maybe do some tests and instead of a “whisper” brake that disappoints everyone maybe give us a variable weight brake with removable weights or a tension device. Don’t know if it’ll be handy or not but couldn’t be worse.
I am pretty amazed that you’re experiencing the accuracy you claim considering the power output. Although I didn’t see too much gain in accuracy from my down tunes, just a far better shot cycle.
I am pretty amazed that you’re experiencing the accuracy you claim considering the power output. Although I didn’t see too much gain in accuracy from my down tunes, just a far better shot cycle.
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The kite has always been better, you have the options of springs of 16J 20J and 28J. Cometa's barrel is much higher than Gamo's, it differs from having a left turn
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Enkey
The kite has always been better, you have the options of springs of 16J 20J and 28J. Cometa's barrel is much higher than Gamo's, it differs from having a left turn
Regards
Enkey
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Whenever I see a post about the impressive accuracy and power of a 15 foot pound budget breakbarrel at 100 yards, I take it for what it is.
careful what you read on the internet guys.
careful what you read on the internet guys.
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Depends more on the shooter than the gun, no?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DqlmF7tPlM
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Have a look at extreme bench rest and look at their groups.
This is not typical accuracy, and that is a Gamo representative.
probably cherry-picked out of Lord knows how many groups.
This is not typical accuracy, and that is a Gamo representative.
probably cherry-picked out of Lord knows how many groups.
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I'm not up to any "real" distance yet. But I've challenged myself to shoot 100-yards, bench-rest probably, sub-MOA, with a cheap break-barrel. And film it properly for any doubters.
Right now my best candidate is the Gamo Swarm Magnum gen2 .22.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20mvwhO2tVk
But I've really gotta find me a good spot around here I can get to easily and spend the days practicing. 70-feet is fine for backyard plinking, but the challenge wears off quickly.
Right now my best candidate is the Gamo Swarm Magnum gen2 .22.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20mvwhO2tVk
But I've really gotta find me a good spot around here I can get to easily and spend the days practicing. 70-feet is fine for backyard plinking, but the challenge wears off quickly.
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Like I said, cherry picked.
If you can really do it, take it to extreme benchrest with your cheap breakbarrel.
unless it’s a perfectly calm day I bet you won’t be on paper.
If you can really do it, take it to extreme benchrest with your cheap breakbarrel.
unless it’s a perfectly calm day I bet you won’t be on paper.
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