FX Impact x 177 finally arrived,but a big disappointment

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Well my impact finally arrived today and I must I’m really disappointed!

first of the trigger was set really heavy, so much that wasn’t fun to shoot. I found mr Rowers videos on how to adjust trigger and helped a little but not enough, and I thought f.. that I’ll adjust it later and started shooting it and I started with JSB Heavy and no matter what setting I used on the hammer adjuster they wouldn’t group. I then tried JSB Monster and JSB Exact all 4.52mm non of them will group right.. i then tried the Heavy’s again, and on my third shot half way through the loading process, the cocking leaver just stopped! 

So now it’s stuck halfway and the pellet is halfway in I think, because I can’t get the mag out and I can’t move the cocking leaver. And now I don’t really what to do..

i thought I would have more then 60 shots through it before anything went wrong, I’m so disappointed right now👎👎


 
Not to worry. First off you have a trigger that is probably too heavy to group right. Second off you have a regulator that won't be broke in for probably another couple of hundred rounds. Question … have you tried to shoot anything yet without the magazine in … in other words by single loading the pellets. My magazine on my Impact is a bunch of crap and to get any accuracy out of it I have to single load it. Try pushing the round stuck in the barrel out with a wooden dowel rod back towards the magazine. Don't get discouraged, the FX Impact is a gun that you must learn to have patience with to be able to get it accurately shooting. When I first got my Impact the hammer spring was very loose and would not hold it's position for more than a few minutes of shooting … I set it to the right position and then put some blue loc-tite on it to hold it in place. Many people who have tried to adjust the trigger have been unable to get their first stage pull back and end up settling for a very light single stage trigger, mine breaks at about 8 oz. There are many people who can give you better instructions than I can regarding the Impact as I have done most of my modifications flying by the seat of my pants. I would not recommend you changing the settings of the Impact until the regulator gets broke in properly and then see what you have. Hope you cleaned your barrel first, if not get the pellet cleared and then give it a first class cleaning. Not to worry, don't get in a hurry, give the gun a chance.
 
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Sorry to hear that

Had exactly the same issues with my Crown, Piss poor accuracy and consistency, cocking lever jams, After sending it for repair twice there was little improvement so I returned it, I wouldn't buy another fx now, Their quality control is poor, Their new designs are sold to customers before they have them working right. The .177 x barrel is trash

$2000 to be a beta tester? no thanks


 
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Streamline and Wildcat are very simple and reliable guns that FX makes and should be the go to for the regular shooters. The Impact is far from a simple design. I find the Impact is for the airgunner that has full confidence in tuning and tinkering with that platform also they need to be able to problem solve if they choose to tune their gun. Only issues I had are from my own mistakes. Replaced the parts I screwed up and back on target. Seems more people have issues with the Impacts but some also get them dialed in and lock them where they are and they will shoot great time after time.
 
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A negative FX post? You must be a paid Umarex troll sent here to make the gauntlet look better! I’m going to go record an attack video in response to your lies! 😁

In all seriousness, I’ve heard that the .177 x barrels are less than stellar. I also had some trigger issues with my old impact that were resolved by the dealer. The FX repair center in NC is an option but since you just got this rifle I would be more inclined to send it back to the dealer for replacement. A new gun should, IMO, have been test fired prior to shipping and if they sent you a lemon it should be replaced.
 
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Raptor, try to remove the barrel...it should come off and allow you to get the magazine out. Then put it all back in the box and ship it to the FX Warranty/Service center for repair and adjustment. Don't do anything else yourself or you may void your warranty! Let FX fix it for you or insist on a new replacement or refund and use the money for a laser accurate trouble free rifle like the Wildcat. (take pictures of the serial number on your gun before you ship it back for service).
 
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Hi guys

and thank you for your responses

first thing I did was clean the barrel and made sure it was seated right, before tightening it back up 

i removed the barrel and got the pellet out, I didn’t try to shoot it as it got dark here👎 I’ll try to shoot it again tomorrow and see how it goes,and if it jams again I’ll contact my dealer and sent it back. 

I adjusted the trigger, but I couldn’t get it light enough and if I adjust to much then there is a delay before the shot goes of, so I backed it off a little to be safe.

about the accuracy hmm I hope it will come when the reg has some shots through it.

i haven’t tried to single load it, but I can try that. I don’t want to single load it every time i didn’t pay 2250 to single load it, I want it to work with mag.

i now this is a gun for the tuner and guys who like to tinker, but there shouldn’t be problems already after 60 shots, that’s just bad QC


 
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ahhh, if I may.

Get yourself a dow rod, or a piece of wood, or even a sharpie pen, and a hammer.

Pull your bolt/probe all the way back so as not to damage it. You do not want the pellet probe/cocking lever pushed forward or you will not only sheer the pellet off, but you will bend the probe to the point that its unusable. Place one end of the sharpie ink pen on your magazine,,,,,,,and wack the other end with your hammer. This will sheer the pellet and it will drop out once you remove the magazine.

This is the easy effective way. I have seen this problem time and time again with new users. It's nothing new. In fact I have had to do this a time or two over the last 18 years or so.

While we're on the subject , I keep seeing people parroting that the Smooth Twist X barrel LINER is more accurate than the Smooth Twist BARREL. I can assure you that it's not.
 
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Raptor ... it's been a little over 18 months since I played around with the trigger and like a lot of the people on this forum, when I attempted to adjust it I lost the first stage pull so now all I have is a single stage trigger but it goes off with very little pressure … and I MEAN VERY LITTLE PRESSURE. I wouldn't recommend getting it as light as I do unless you are certain that you are going to be the only one using the gun and you are not a forgetful person. Mine is as light as I could make it and still have the safety work, but I wouldn't rely on a safety with a trigger as light as mine … I usually carry it un-cocked just in case. 

It is hard to explain the trigger on the Impact because when you turn one screw you it can very easily change the adjustment that you made to the other screw. Ernest Rowe did a video on adjusting the trigger on the Impact and I'm sure that if you type in "Adjusting the FX Impact trigger" you will be able to find it on YouTube or you can go to Ernest's Web Site and see it there under the section dedicated to the Impact. The trouble with that video is that it leaves you with as many questions as it provides answers. I played around with mine for about 6 hours before I got it as light and as steady as possible. Once you get it where you want it put a little finger nail polish on it or some blue loc-tite on the screw with a tooth pick. Any time you adjust the trigger on any gun always be sure that the safety is working properly before you lock the trigger down.

John
 
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@Raptor,

The probe grub screw doesn't look seated, it should be flush with or below the probe housing side surface, this screw will also require some loctite, that grub screw will cause cocking issues if not seated. The valve adjuster is turned all the way in, this is the way FX ships the gun and it will severely limit the velocity, when first setting up the gun one needs to back this out past the 4th line, this will allow the valve to travel unimpeded.

Have you chronied the gun? The jsb 10.34 should be very good at between 905 and 925 FPS, what is the reg set at? In .177 it should be around 110 bar, what is the distance of the hammer spring tensioner? On max it should be around 20mm. The valve adjuster is used to fine tune the velocity, once you know how fast your gun is really shooting (ie back out the valve adjuster) you can use a chrony and slowly close the valve adjuster to limit the speed to about 15 FPS below what your gun is shooting at unrestricted. This will fine-tune the burst of air behind the pellet resulting in less pellet destabilization, it will also fine tune the air that is used at full pressure, so not so much air is wasted with each shot.

The trigger is tricky but can be adjusted with practice. The two screws work together, the first stage adjuster needs to be set so that there is enough travel for the first stage to reset while the second stage needs to be adjusted so that the ball spring contacts the steel rod before the trigger breaks or the ball is compressed, the gun should fire when pressing the ball spring further past the initial rod contact point. Once you mess with the trigger make sure that the safety is still working. The trigger is like a see-saw, it needs to be balanced perfectly for your taste.

The magazines need to be tuned, in .177 I only use one turn of the spring, I also used 1200 grit sandpaper rolled into a tube to slightly enlarge the holes and bevel the top surface of the mag cassette.

I know that you are new to the gun, but more info is needed to truly help you, the info you have given is too vague to really offer any help other than general suggestions. Please chrony the gun, we need the speed per pellet weight, also please provide all your settings, as in reg pressure, hammer spring distances and valve adjuster positions.

I can tell you with almost 100% certainty that your gun was nowhere near ready to shoot out of the box, in the same way that a formula one car is not ready to drive when new. The 2000 + that you spent was for the platform not for a ready to shoot gun...

Dont dispair, you have a steep learning curve to master, and only experience and perserverance will aid you so dont give up yet!


 
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After 25 days of trying, my .22 Crown is going back this week. I've asked for a replacement, but I'm having second thoughts now.

About the same issues as your Impact. No problems with the magazine though. But no accuracy with any pellet at any velocity. Single load too. CRAZY spiraling! Groups measured in feet at times. Chronographed well though. Usually <10fps spread.

Last session cocking got extremely rough for a few cycles, then back to normal. Then rough again. That was the last straw.

Quite disappointed.


 
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So you spend $2000 plus on a gun that needs to be tightened here and adjusted there and loc tited everywhere? This is fine and dandy if it is shooting pellet on pellet. But i guess I have a real problem with the lack of QC coming out of the factory. I dont want to bad mouth these guns because I know that they shoot great once the problems are worked out but I would have a real problem plunking down my hard erned cash on a gun that needs that much tweaking. My hatsan needed cleaning and pellet selection. 3000 rounds later and i have replaced a set of orings on the fill probe. Thats it. I took the other $1750 and put it in the bank. Just my uninformed un educated 2 cents
 
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