FX Fx impact m3 2nd reg gauge not registering - plenum not filling - think I’m loosing my mind lookin’ for a reason and still not finding .

-After 4 yrs I had of owning this gun a o-ring let loose , only the second one I’ve had to replace . I had it stored for the winter aired up and went to check and charge the digital gauge up like normal every two months or so . I noticed that there was no air. Long story short I had to replaced the o-ring behind the 2nd regulator in the block under the trigger . Purchased a new huma 2nd regulator to put into it . All went well but now the 2nd regulator gauge won’t work . I run two to adjust the regulators easier then seal off the rear when done , well that was the plan , so I got the original and the side mounted digital gauge . Also noticed the plenum is not filling as well . I’ve had the gun apart to detail clean every micro inch and even acquired a endoscopic camera to inspect . I’ve had it apart numerous times and know how it goes together learning from videos on y-tube from the likes of earnest and 911 videos . Never had an issue . I’ve probed and cleaned out the pathways to the gauge , regulators (all parts ) even installed the factory AMP regulator to check if it was the new regulator being a problem . I’ve literally worn out a huma taking it out so many times to check if it was working- I wore out the slot for the screw driver ., I’ve checked the valve rod to ensure it mated in the valve body and was not binding or hanging on the o-rings , cleaned and probed the holes in the air pathway while apart on the plenum and the block …. I’m to wits-end on this one . I’ve miked the valve rod end that screws off to 6.5 (opposite end of gun) and I have adjustment on the part you screw to the lines on the front under the barrel and adjusted the knob's on the side where the numbers are . I can not find a rhyme or reason as I say I’ve had the gun apart numerous times adding hammers and weights plus already installed a new vavle rod back last season . I take care of my equipment like a marine in boot camp . I enjoy working on my equipment when there is info and instructions and usually comes out good but - . I have the front reg set to 170 then went back to 150 to see if that mattered . Can’t figure it out . The 2nd regulator is new or was when I started . The white peek circular piece was installed cupped side facing the brass screw and I got the washer stack from the huma site for the heavy regulator , I know that is correct . The amp regulator was installed watching the 911 video ( to get the stack correct ) plus others to look for a reason ? I’ve also searched here and lerk here from time to time reading articles about the guns own to learn from others .
I hate to give in to send it back for service - anyone have this experience before ?
It also has a new valve body recently but held air since . I had it one time aired up to around 50 bar on the gauge and was increasing but blew out the o-ring in the new Huma regulator aluminum housing (middle o-ring) letting the screw out to adjust to pressure but got that put back finally and thought it was fixed but no luck . This has went on for around 6 weeks waiting for parts for the gun a couple times then parts for my compressor -then this happened . I’m learning to purchase multiple of everything from o-rings to regulator to compressors so when I have time I can shoot - but …. Not even this seems to work out well .
in 4 years of ownership I had to replace the gun housing right after I purchased it because the tiny screw was stuck where the digital gauge goes . Would not budge - so I drilled (learned later this must be heated )- I can tell you that this was not the route to take - but luckily they make plenty of spares at around $500 a whack . Lesson learned - videos of people like Ernest are your friend , too bad I can’t find a video of this problem though … and I’ve tried Not wanting to experience another, let us say unintentional mis- adventure .!
Who ever came up with 73 o-rings is one sick puppy . Seriously demented to put such small o-rings in even smaller holes (3 of them ) but my garage is better for it because I‘ve added numerous tools to work on this thing - ha ha ! After a couple hours of fitting the one in the block and then the huma regulator housing middle o-ring that I had to remove to bottom o-ring to see even with the endoscope and head mounted magnifying glass , I’ve began questioning my sanity and arguing with myself over the best way to do it . 😂 after this I’m thinking of building a stamp sized boat inside a bottle all while I’m juggling chainsaws and listening to cats mating ,eating a ice cream cone in hot august weather . It will be easier !
Please help ?
 
Whew, that sounds frustrating.

Divide and conquer. A regulator functions by passing air until such time as the force against the piston’s large end compresses the spring sufficiently to force the small end against the seat and halt the flow of air.

So start by forcing the piston to stay off the seat, to reasonably assure that it will pass air from the reservoir to the plenum. How? Replace the Belleville spring stack with a stack of flat washers of the same approximate height. Or you can use a nested stack of Bellevilles (((((((((((((( to create a similar arrangement.

Then pressurize the system to, say, 100 bar and make sure both the reservoir and plenum match at 100 bar.

In so doing, you will know whether the air passages are clear, and whether the regulator body and guts and seals are working and in the proper arrangement, and can then move on to either troubleshooting the regulator or looking at things external to the regulator.
 
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I have tried seating the huma brass piston into the recess in the block into the o-ring holding it with forceps and also by assembling it while seated into the regulator in one unit -screwing it in , to let it be nutrael as there is a almost circular slot further in before the hole that flows to the plenum ,so it may seat itself under pressure but I'm not sure it moves that much . One of the issues I had to complicate matters was I didn't have the dura90 o-ring on hand and had to order it . I tried a dura70 and it blew out promptly . So I called a shop (all names removed to protect people and places ) that had a event as it was June and the shop was running on a skeleton crew , so they had limited help that day . I 100% suspected they sent me the wrong dura o-ring but since they were all sent in one ziplock bag instead of seperate bags with a designation labeled on the bag individually it is hard to prove definitely but we are all human, atleast I told myself . So I called them back to enquire but was told they were aware that it required a specific hardness and sent the correct part as I also gave them part numbers off the fx website schematic (where as this was very likely not the same guy I originally spoke to a week prior due to shipping time and the event scheduled ). This resulted in wearing out the regulator , taking it out so many times because of the cant of the screw driver at this angle (many, many times ) . So out of interest to prove my point I ordered from another shop out west slightly south of the first place then received their parts to install . It sealed and held air fine , even registering around 50 bar on the 2nd reg gauge and I was increasing pressure when it popped the middle o-ring in the aluminum huma housing . Since then it's been apart many times to check what I could have missed . I see nothing when inspected compared to numerous videos and the fx schematic but the human factor is always there . Next I even followed the steps of Ernest Rowe video building the gun from parts checking every hole to see if they were open to flow air . Even trying the 2 spare AMP regs - I got the same result . This is not to mention the huma regulator that had previously been in the gun that I destroyed the slot of buggering the treads up because I have had it out so many times with the brass piston in the aluminum housing and out . I saw a post where they had issues with the valve rod dragging on the thick white o-ring in the plenum housing so I next concentrated on this area which of course requires the removal of the end of the rod but I had the tool to correctly remove it . I have a spare rod but seen nothing to make me believe it was this issue and would not affect this anyhow as it only opens when the trigger is pulled or the arm is actuated to load another round . I even probed the plenum housing cover hole while apart and see can daylight through the block housing where it goes in while the regulator was also out . The only other pathway is on the left side with the brass plug in the back that accesses above the front bottle regulator but the 2nd reg gets air because it blew the o-ring , It is like it just stops there and goes no further back .
Placing the washers like suggested would allow the piston to remain in one constant position effectively bypassing it , so I will give this a shot as it's all I have left at this point to try until I find a answer or stumble upon a reason . Thanks for the suggestion .
 
After the advice above I have it narrowed down to a washer or washer stack issue . I have the 1312 gen3 extra high pressure washer set where 9 came with it and the 1155 tuning regulator . Problem is when I go to follow huma instructions with 8 washers it will not allow air past to the plenum . These washers measure . 54mm . I have the amp regulator but it seems those are didn’t thicknesses too (11 total in the video I watched ) with 8 being thinner .39mm and also using 3 thicker washers measuring .59mm . I also tried the huma high pressure washer stack - no luck either .
Unless someone knows off hand I’ll being calling a shop to find out the rest of this story this coming week but atleast I know the issue now .
 
Well if you are setting it up correctly, I don't see how the washer stack causes the problem...
When first install the Huma Regulator. You Gently screw in the brass adjustment screw until
it just makes contacts with Delrin Disk and Brass Piston.
Install your bottle, then back off the adjustment screw slowly..
You should hear air rushing in to the Plenum

Good Luck!