FX hybrid slugs terminal performance

[PerkyVal]

Hiya Kids!



Soooo, due to what I thought was poor terminal performance with the 22grn hybrid out of the Brocock at only 680fps I was forced to buy another Impact.

It's not completely tuned yet, but at the ranges I'm shooting today (less than 35 yards) it's much more accurate than the Brocock, as you would expect.

I'm shooting the slugs somewhere between 935fps and 972fps. The spread is horrid, but I'll sort that out.

While I was adjusting my NoLimit rings a squirrel thought it should have lunch from the pile of sunflower seeds that had mysteriously appeared right before my 25 yard targets a few days ago.

At any rate I shot the little bugger in the shoulder, breaking his arm, then passing thru his body.

I did not see the explosive expansion I was expecting at the exit wound. In fact there was little difference from what I saw with the Brocock.

I washed the squirrel, and took pics of the impact and exit wounds.

Exit...

 

[bucketboy]

Hiya Kids!





It's not completely tuned yet, but at the ranges I'm shooting today (less than 35 yards) it's much more accurate than the Brocock, as you would expect.

Why would expect it to be more accurate? My impact is accurate enough but not as accurate as my other guns?

Bb

 

[PerkyVal]

Hiya Kids!





It's not completely tuned yet, but at the ranges I'm shooting today (less than 35 yards) it's much more accurate than the Brocock, as you would expect.

Why would expect it to be more accurate? My impact is accurate enough but not as accurate as my other guns?

Bb









I'm not sure why you had to interject your snarky comment about my Impact when the topic was about the hybrid terminal performance. Not the first time I've seen you do this either, and it's uncalled for. You should understand that I have had many different brands and for me the FX rifles are best for me. Period.

It's my considered opinion that some people cant drive a Ferrari as good as a Prius.

 

[intenseaty22]

Thanks for the feedback on this. I have been trying to put them to “good” use recently but have not been able to get a shot at a tree rat. Did take some shots at some iguanas, but missed the shots. Mine are only going out at 750sh, but very accurate at 30 yards. Will post to the Hunting section whenever I can nail one. 

 

[L.Leon]

At 35 yards pellets would do the job on that squirrel too.... Brocock or not...

 

[Dairyboy]

At 35 yards pellets would do the job on that squirrel too.... Brocock or not...

Agreed. 

 

[PerkyVal]

At 35 yards pellets would do the job on that squirrel too.... Brocock or not...

Yes, in fact I got 2 with the brocock. However, I expected much more expansion with the Impact pushing the slug over 250fps faster

 

[sonny]

maybe its just so fast it doesn't have time to expand. Its like driving a straw through a raw potato, enough speed and … Just a thought.

 

[intenseaty22]

Val, so, did you get ANY expansion out of the lower speeds of the Brocock? or same as higher speeds of the Impact? Thanks. 

 

[sonny]

a sling shot and a marble would do the job but I dont think thats the subject.

 

[IraLite]

I would prefer HPs not exit and launch the squirrel 50 feet away.

 

[Pickzilla]

Interesting... I have popped 3 tree rats with the FX hybrids. When they hit, at about 920 fps, out of my R5M, there has been a very distinct hollow "Thwop", louder and more low pitched than when I've hit them with standard JSB pellets. NSA's sound similar, as do the VK 22gr. I assume they are expanding. Maybe I'll do some cadaveric testing when weather isn't 10 deg out. 

 

[ChuckHunter]

Interesting results, 

I shot 5 big fox squirrels the other day from 30 to 72 yards at 860 fps and not a single pass thru. Loud pop on impact ! Shot from my Veteran long. I'm wondering if maybe these slugs have a sweet spot for expansion? I just received some power tuning goodies and going to test at some higher speeds this weekend....on a side note the accuracy is fonominal! 

James from Michigan 

 

[PerkyVal]

Perhaps the speed was to fast for the distance, but that doesnt explain the same thing with the Brocock at 690ish fps

 

[Ranchibi]

I recently purchased some FX Hybrids and I’m sure a lot depends on the slugs composition, how soft or hard they were made for expansion purposes.

 

[PerkyVal]

Val, so, did you get ANY expansion out of the lower speeds of the Brocock? or same as higher speeds of the Impact? Thanks.

I really didnt see any difference between the Impact, and Brocock. 

After I shot 2 with the Brocock at 690ish fps I shot a couple more with the Hades. No passthru with those

 

[davelarson]

I’m very interested in finding out how the slugs preform at 20 yards, for dealing with my skunk problem. Polymags don’t fit in the Crown magazine and I’m thinking that the slugs might be better than a regular pellet or a polymag. What does your tuner say about it... or do you just get purring?

 

[PerkyVal]

I’m very interested in finding out how the slugs preform at 20 yards, for dealing with my skunk problem. Polymags don’t fit in the Crown magazine and I’m thinking that the slugs might be better than a regular pellet or a polymag. What does your tuner say about it... or do you just get purring?

Ge only purrs when he's biting and scratching. He's 12lbs at 6 mos old. Damn Main Coons are way too big to act like small kittens.

After only one day of using the hybrids in the Impact, plus a week or 2 with the Brocock I would suggest using the Hades out to 30 yards, perhaps out to 50 yards. Right now i see no benefit in spending 3 times the money for projectiles with worse terminal performance. 

My thoughts on that are subject to revision after I get my furry tuner to do his job, and I get more time with the new Impact. I especially want to try the slugs in high wind, longer distances, different tunes, and so forth.

 

[edosan]

My theory is that the mother of that squirrel was out of milk to feed when it was a BB, so the bones were to fragile and the slug pass thru jaja

 

[sonny]

 

After only one day of using the hybrids in the Impact, plus a week or 2 with the Brocock I would suggest using the Hades out to 30 yards, perhaps out to 50 yards. Right now i see no benefit in spending 3 times the money for projectiles with worse terminal performance. 





I agree, I think for ranges over 75yards they could be useful or perhaps larger game/pests