Hi, I'm about to buy the FX dreamline lite .22 with aluminium bottle. Does anybody Have the same? Is it a lot heavier. Reason is the carbon bottle is $600 dearer. I can upgrade to an after market C.F bottle later for $250. So I'm thinking if I go with aluminium bottle as apposed to the long cylinder model ,I'l always have that as a spare if I upgrade to C.F. also it says it will have the superier liner so will that mean I can shoot some slugs?
FX Dreamline lite .22 Bottle
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I didn't buy my Dream-Lite as a bottle gun, but I have converted it into one with the bottle adapter and aluminum bottle. For the lower cost I didn't believe that the aluminum bottle would feel significantly different when on the gun.
I will have to say that my initial assessment was wrong. That gun does feel pretty heavy with an aluminum bottle on the front. Of course it was pretty darned light to begin with.
Funny thing is that with the aluminum bottle the overall weight of the gun seems heavy to me, but bringing it up to your eye or holding it up while shouldered doesn't seem all that bad.
I love bottle guns and high shot counts, but if the difference between the aluminum and CF bottle you are seeing is $600, I would definitely go with the aluminum right now and upgrade later with an aftermarket bottle. Yes the aluminum bottle is heavier, but it doesn't make the gun unwieldy (just overall heavier to carry). And as far as my Dream-Lite goes, I could also improve its current overall weight situation by mounting a lighter scope.
I will have to say that my initial assessment was wrong. That gun does feel pretty heavy with an aluminum bottle on the front. Of course it was pretty darned light to begin with.
Funny thing is that with the aluminum bottle the overall weight of the gun seems heavy to me, but bringing it up to your eye or holding it up while shouldered doesn't seem all that bad.
I love bottle guns and high shot counts, but if the difference between the aluminum and CF bottle you are seeing is $600, I would definitely go with the aluminum right now and upgrade later with an aftermarket bottle. Yes the aluminum bottle is heavier, but it doesn't make the gun unwieldy (just overall heavier to carry). And as far as my Dream-Lite goes, I could also improve its current overall weight situation by mounting a lighter scope.
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I have a .25 FX Dreamline Lite (that I have now converted to a Dreamline Tactical). I converted from a tube gun to a CF 48cc bottle. While it is heavier, the difference, in my opinion, is not significant, especially when one remembers that your are comparing not the bare gun weights, but the weights of the gun plus scope and rings. Also remember that to do the conversion one has to purchase not only the bottle, but also the bottle adaptor, which currently runs $129 at most sites.
The change is well worth in from my perspective. The difference in the number of shots is significant, coming from both the increased size of the bottle versus that of the tube (480 cc vs 250 cc) as well as the increased fill pressure (250 Bar for the bottle as opposed to 230 Bar for the tube).
Chris
The change is well worth in from my perspective. The difference in the number of shots is significant, coming from both the increased size of the bottle versus that of the tube (480 cc vs 250 cc) as well as the increased fill pressure (250 Bar for the bottle as opposed to 230 Bar for the tube).
Chris
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I don’t have an actual comparison of the Aluminum bottle versus the CF bottle, but I can’t believe that the difference in cost would be $600. I think the big costs differences are going from the tube gun to any bottle gun. This is because one has to purchase (if doing it after the fact) both a bottle adaptor and the bottle itself. The adaptor is $130 and I believe that the 480cc CF bottle is approx. $300. The aluminum bottle is approx $100.
In fact the Dreamline Lite with a CF bottle lists on Pyramyd Air for $1480 while the same gun with the aluminum bottle lists for $1280, exactly reflecting the $200 difference between the cost of the two bottles.
The Dreamline Lite with a tube lists for $1180.
Obviously prices may vary, especially outside the USA, but a $600 difference seems excessive.
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O.K., I can add a bit to my first response.
I had a CF 480cc bottle on hand for a different project, which has now gone away. So I put it onto the Dream-Lite in place of the aluminum bottle.
Very noticeable different in weight and balance of the gun. Much improved - makes it feel much more like it did as a cylinder gun.Even with the big, heavy, cr@ppy scope currently on the rifle. (EDIT: On looking again it is actually not a B, H, C scope I have on this rifle, so disregard that comment)
If you are going to use the gun for benchrest shooting, the aluminum bottle is really no issue, at a much lower cost. If you are going to carry the gun around and shoot more off hand, then having the CF bottle instead is a big improvement.
I had a CF 480cc bottle on hand for a different project, which has now gone away. So I put it onto the Dream-Lite in place of the aluminum bottle.
Very noticeable different in weight and balance of the gun. Much improved - makes it feel much more like it did as a cylinder gun.
If you are going to use the gun for benchrest shooting, the aluminum bottle is really no issue, at a much lower cost. If you are going to carry the gun around and shoot more off hand, then having the CF bottle instead is a big improvement.
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Thank you, unfortunately here in Europe it's €1100 ($1300)for cylinder model, €1200 ($1400) for aluminium bottle and €1700 ($2000)for carbon model. But I can buy an aftermarket C.F. including fitting for €200($240). I think I'l suffer the weight for the savings and purchase the C.F. at a later stage. I'l then have a spare bottle to bring on a shoot as I'm assuming both bottles would have pin valves from standard
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Fiestaman,
Wow!
That pricing is really shocking (although I suspect that the prices you quote include VAT, whereas my prices do not include any sales taxes). However, what is really surprising is the difference between the aluminum bottle and the CF one. That is almost three times the difference in cost for the bottles themselves!
TMH, I agree with you on the CF bottle. I didn’t feel much difference between the Dreamline with the tube and with the CF bottle. Quite a difference in shot count though.
Chris
Wow!
That pricing is really shocking (although I suspect that the prices you quote include VAT, whereas my prices do not include any sales taxes). However, what is really surprising is the difference between the aluminum bottle and the CF one. That is almost three times the difference in cost for the bottles themselves!
TMH, I agree with you on the CF bottle. I didn’t feel much difference between the Dreamline with the tube and with the CF bottle. Quite a difference in shot count though.
Chris
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Yes, purchase the correct bottle designed for the gun and it will have a valve for easy change-over in the field, with very little loss of air.
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I bought the aluminum bottle version first, and then bought a CF bottle. It’s about 1lbs lighter with CF. I think it feels MUCH better with CF and much better for shooting off hand. From a bench it’s really no difference.
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Thank you for all the replys, I'm sticking to my guns and going aluminium to save the money and get carbon fibre later.
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