FX did not lie, hybrid slugs .25cal with ordinary stx barrel=hopeless

[LIYAN]

I bought 5 packs of .25cal fx hybrid slugs and decided to test them this morning. I know they shoot better with the new fx superior liner, but to my big surprise, they fly everywhere and turned my dreamline nearly to a shotgun! I got 3" groups at 25 yards. My setup is fx dreamline-tac with power plenum, reg 145bar, power wheel at max, I tried 950 fps to 1000+fps, but the group always be like 2"-3" at 25 yards, I didn't even try at 50 yards and beyond.

I got my .25 rigs back in car and took out my .22 dreamline-pup, shot .22 hybrid slugs sub-moa at 50 yards, 875fps with power plenum and reg 140bar.

So, to whom don't have a superior liners or don't plan to buy one, forget .25 hybrid slugs, they are hopeless with your stx barrel.

BTW: It can be seen in the photo that there is dew on the moderator, reason is air humidity is high this morning, and the air at the muzzle expands violently when shot, causing the temperature to decrease.

 

[T3PRanch]

hopeless at 25 yards! What do they do at a longer distance? Slugs are NOT short range projectiles in most cases and may stabilize at longer distances.

Shoot them at 100 yards and you may see a big difference.

 

[nervoustrig]

How will each projectile know to return to the same POI at a longer distance? I can accept they may not have “gone quiet” by 25 yards but once the intended path is lost, it’s gone forever.

 

[harrymoreland]

twist rates on the old and new would be an interest (to me).

 

[LIYAN]

Slug is not a guided missile , it won't get back to the right trajectroy no matter how far it travels.

 

[LIYAN]

twist rates on the old and new would be an interest (to me).

Exactly, I believe the main differences between the two liners are twist rate and choke.

 

[2L8]

LIYAN,

My Dreamline classic delivered the same results as yours did, to a T. 1 1/2-2"+@25yd

I weighed each and separated. Weights were 26.0,26.1 and 26.2 for the tray. Most .1 and .2 and shot @930 -981. No go.

STX+hybrid slugs=not ready for Dreamline primetime

 

[Macros]

hopeless at 25 yards! What do they do at a longer distance? Slugs are NOT short range projectiles in most cases and may stabilize at longer distances.

Shoot them at 100 yards and you may see a big difference.

Lol has somebody been watching 'Wanted' recently?

 

[zan89]

Just tested fx .25 slugs in slug liner A. Not working at all. Best i got was 2" group at 55yards at around 800fps with biger velocities i got 8" groups. With NSA i got one biger hole with 5 shots repeatedly around 980fps 33.5 gr

 

[qball]

Just tested fx .25 slugs in slug liner A. Not working at all. Best i got was 2" group at 55yards at around 800fps with biger velocities i got 8" groups. With NSA i got one biger hole with 5 shots repeatedly around 980fps 33.5 gr

why not stick with NSA? They are like half the price without the fancy packaging that needs to be thrown away. 

 

[zan89]

Qball, yes shure! But i just want to try them. Anyway, my purpose is to shoot long range as a long range firearm training, evaluating winds, shooting in diffirent positions etc. So i want heavy slug with biger BC to fly better through wind. So probably i will stick with NSA 33.4 or 36.2 gr.

 

[tsmith]

i wonder what liner FX did the original testing with. or did they know all along they would make people buy a “new liner” ! wasnt the “hybrid” developed to be able to be shot out of a regular barrel and require no special liner? marketing gimmick.........

 

[zan89]

No, first they made slugs that were not working.. and what is better than make a new barell that works, and people need to buy that to.. and after that new new slugs will come, and guess what, also a new new barell. Then our kids can play star wars with all those sticks.

 

[qball]

Only thing “hybrid” about those slugs is the lighter weight so lesser guns can try to push them. 

 

[tsmith]

No, first they made slugs that were not working.. and what is better than make a new barell that works, and people need to buy that to.. and after that new new slugs will come, and guess what, also a new new barell. Then our kids can play star wars with all those sticks.

 

[Diaz]

Totally agree with all of you FX Hybrids = mockery
Possibly they work better in the liner of other brands than in the own of Fx.

 

[Macloaded]

This is very disappointing. In 22 the hybrids shoot fantastic out of my Wolverine at only 760ftps. Got a 25 cal Impact coming and was looking forward to changing between these hybrids and pellets but think I will pass and stick to jsb heavies. £100 for a liner to shoot slugs that cost the same as my 22lr ammunition and probably won't be able to match my Anschutz, absolutely no point. Rather cynical to develop a slug that doesn't work in your own barrel liners. 

 

[bigbassguy]

.25 impact 700mm 50yard groups 

 

[LIYAN]

.25 impact 700mm 50yard groups

All the people know .25 hybrid shoot fantastic using superior liner, your group is impressive, but we are talking about slugs with ordinary stx liner.

 

[davidsng]

This seems to happen a lot in the industry. All testing with a particular projectile, or even a whole gun in that matter, is done in the .22 caliber. Then the .25 cal is an after-thought, knowing everyone who has good luck in .22 will try a .25. So, they just cookie-cut the .25 from the .22, but it never works the same. 

This happened in the past with AA guns, they just put a .25 barrel into a .22 platform. Also withHades, a .22 Hades does more damage (at 900fps in my experience) than the .25. I'm not saying a .25 Hybrid is bad, but just in order to make it work, you will have to try it at different speeds or different barrels or different guns.