FX Bottle Valve Removal Tool

[jking]

I came up with a way to remove the valve out of my FX bottle without a spanner wrench. I found a large socket in my tool box that I believe was a engine sending unit removal socket. I've had it for years and don't remember every using it. I started out by opening up the ID so that just the valve would slide in, drilled a hole that would match up with the hole in the valve. The photos will explain it better probably. I just snugged up the socket in my vice and unscrewed the bottle by hand. Sorry for the huge photos.

 

[Glem.Chally]

Genius, very creative Jimmy!

 

[biohazardman]

Yes there are many very creative folks around the forum for sure. Nice job and not overly expensive project probly $20 for a socket that is very seldom used.

 

[Peashooter]

Haha thats how you do it

I am contemplating that if i get another carbon bottle, then using the valve on the free ALU bottle i got with my Maverick.

 

[Airgun-hobbyist]

Necessity is the mother of invention. Fine job.

 

[bigHUN]

You are lucky mine was bonded heavily (I can see two different color on the valve thread) and I had to heat it up but the electric blower was not enough I had to torch it.

Good job !!!

 

[stoti]

Dang, good work Jimmy! That’s cool. I was just wrestling with the valve removal issue. I went the other route and bought a new valve so I didn’t have to deal with it! Now I have a spare bottle for the DW.

I hope you had a good holiday season and happy New Year, it’s been a while.

Have a great weekend!

Stoti

 

[jking]

Thanks guys, I know Nathan mentioned his has some pretty good loctite applied to the one he took out. I think if I modified it any I would open up the mouth a little more so that the CF could go up in it maybe 1/2" and then have it reduced for the valve and re-drill the hole. It wouldn't be much different and no more than I'm ever going to remove the valves I'll probably just call it good. Kevin the 700 is going on my Crown to start off. I'll try it on my Impact but it might look a little long so I may get a 580 for it. We'll see..

Jking

 

[2L8]

Very nice Jimmy. Simple, affective and much cheaper than my solution. Great job.

Patrick

 

[Stretchearstrong]

I came up with a way to remove the valve out of my FX bottle without a spanner wrench. I found a large socket in my tool box that I believe was a engine sending unit removal socket. I've had it for years and don't remember every using it. I started out by opening up the ID so that just the valve would slide in, drilled a hole that would match up with the hole in the valve. The photos will explain it better probably. I just snugged up the socket in my vice and unscrewed the bottle by hand. Sorry for the huge photos.

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What size socket did you start with? Watching the instructional video for the saber tactical toolset, they didn't even use the bottle-wrench & that's 50% of the kit.
I'd far rather do something like this.

 

[Firewalker]

Great idea! Hot oil bath for mine (200°F) and nylon jaws worked on mine.

 

[Trucker3573]

Great idea! Hot oil bath for mine (200°F) and nylon jaws worked on mine.

So they are loc tited in I assume ? I figured as such. Would heat from a hair dryer be enough you think ? I will end up probably buying the spanner wrench.

 

[mubhaur]

Great

 

[Firewalker]

I looked at the data on carbon fiber bonding epoxies and 200° F was well within temperature limits but even a hair dryer exceeded this temp by a good 100° F!

No, not a lot of thermal energy but held in the same place, close to the work surface, hot spots were guaranteed.

Also, the heat was localized and tended to sit on the surface, this just looked like a bad choice all around so I went with the oil bath for 40 minutes (clean mineral oil in a tiny crockpot) and I was able to remove the valve with little issue.

 

[Trucker3573]

Yeah they definitely need to be locked in there good. If the valve starts unscrewing from the bottle instead of the gun and the user doesn’t notice could result in a missle. Lol.

 

[jking]

What size socket did you start with? Watching the instructional video for the saber tactical toolset, they didn't even use the bottle-wrench & that's 50% of the kit.
I'd far rather do something like this.

I don't recall off-hand but I can see if there is anything legible on it or get a quick measurement.

 

[jking]

I don't recall off-hand but I can see if there is anything legible on it or get a quick measurement.

No stamped numbers anymore. I turned all of that off on the lathe to make it look a little more presentable. You do need to get one that has enough wall thickness to turn the ID down to 29.0MM

 

[SDellinger]

Yeah they definitely need to be locked in there good. If the valve starts unscrewing from the bottle instead of the gun and the user doesn’t notice could result in a missle. Lol.

I'm thinking if the bottle has pressurized air in it the valve won't unscrew. Try it sometime. Even a little air.

 

[Trucker3573]

I'm thinking if the bottle has pressurized air in it the valve won't unscrew. Try it sometime. Even a little air.

Yeah you are probably correct with these HPA bottles. I know it used to be a worry with co2. Much less pressure though.

 

[DesertSilver]

I looked at the data on carbon fiber bonding epoxies and 200° F was well within temperature limits but even a hair dryer exceeded this temp by a good 100° F!

No, not a lot of thermal energy but held in the same place, close to the work surface, hot spots were guaranteed.

Also, the heat was localized and tended to sit on the surface, this just looked like a bad choice all around so I went with the oil bath for 40 minutes (clean mineral oil in a tiny crockpot) and I was able to remove the valve with little issue.

Your hot oil bath is a great idea. The resin system they use is probably not rated for very high temperature. Using a hair dryer can over heat a localized area and weaken the resin bonding the fibers together.