Is this the guy that was pushing the the barrel tuner like it was the best thing since sliced bread. Lost all credibilit.
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FX FX Airguns DRS Pro: How Significant is This Really?
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I don't know much about air guns. This forum has been an encyclopedia of knowledge. I've been following your technical posts and you seem like a fairly competent gunsmith/modder. But clearly you are an idiot when it comes to R&D, manufacturing and production. Of course FX is in the business of making money. Do you think any of this comes cheap?
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It's a pretty Gun.
Being that I had a MACR that had an actual magazine that fed the self contained "bullets" and looked like a .50 cal Barret?
The so called magazine doesn't bother me. People have been doing the plenum trick like that for YEARS!
They just didn't put them in a sweet container like FX did.
What would be ground breaking is to make an adjustable Plenum like that so you don't need to buy different sizes.
But that would hit the possible money they can get selling the Plenums.
Being that I had a MACR that had an actual magazine that fed the self contained "bullets" and looked like a .50 cal Barret?
The so called magazine doesn't bother me. People have been doing the plenum trick like that for YEARS!
They just didn't put them in a sweet container like FX did.
What would be ground breaking is to make an adjustable Plenum like that so you don't need to buy different sizes.
But that would hit the possible money they can get selling the Plenums.
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As for my .02, I am firmly with the crowd of less like a real gun, its hard enough to not get weird looks from neighbors with a big air tank attached to the rifle. Granted thats not an issue for everyone, but its an issue for some.
I feel this gun has all the weakness's of the Panthera with almost none of its strengths. What do I mean? Panthera has low shot count but that can be offset with adding extra air tanks., panthera is also filled from the rear to enable out of the way tethering. DRS has low shot count that is always going to be low. probe style fill makes therating usage less ideal. Panthera makes reasonable power, nothing amazing, but power can be increased by using high BC long slugs that the DRS cannot use. Mag depth of 11.3 insteead of 13mm. Panthera without the airtank upfront enables the use of a folding stock if you so choose to reduce overall length, does not seem to be the case with the DRS.
The good of the DRS, supposedly barrel kits at launch, the PRO caliber options seem more open as they are not listed on the page currently, and supposedly they will offer various plenum sizes.
What I would have rather seen here is hybrid MDT style furnature but the stock made with an airtank for a buffer tube or just the panthera rear stock with the 300cc bottle. That coupled with the around the barrel air tank 300cc would give you a reasonable 600cc of air. I would have prefered even longer mag chamber to shoot up to 15 or even 20mm slugs. The magazine style plenum is fine I suppose, so long as they can make one that rivals the panthera/dynamic 150cc type plenums to fire heavy long slugs, but from the looks of it, anything bigger than the 60cc they have on the one in the image and its going to start looking awkward.
Maybe they can just make a panthera with a magazine style plenum, and put the air tank barrel on it. That would seem to fix a lot of the panthera issues without needing to add a front bottlle.
I feel this gun has all the weakness's of the Panthera with almost none of its strengths. What do I mean? Panthera has low shot count but that can be offset with adding extra air tanks., panthera is also filled from the rear to enable out of the way tethering. DRS has low shot count that is always going to be low. probe style fill makes therating usage less ideal. Panthera makes reasonable power, nothing amazing, but power can be increased by using high BC long slugs that the DRS cannot use. Mag depth of 11.3 insteead of 13mm. Panthera without the airtank upfront enables the use of a folding stock if you so choose to reduce overall length, does not seem to be the case with the DRS.
The good of the DRS, supposedly barrel kits at launch, the PRO caliber options seem more open as they are not listed on the page currently, and supposedly they will offer various plenum sizes.
What I would have rather seen here is hybrid MDT style furnature but the stock made with an airtank for a buffer tube or just the panthera rear stock with the 300cc bottle. That coupled with the around the barrel air tank 300cc would give you a reasonable 600cc of air. I would have prefered even longer mag chamber to shoot up to 15 or even 20mm slugs. The magazine style plenum is fine I suppose, so long as they can make one that rivals the panthera/dynamic 150cc type plenums to fire heavy long slugs, but from the looks of it, anything bigger than the 60cc they have on the one in the image and its going to start looking awkward.
Maybe they can just make a panthera with a magazine style plenum, and put the air tank barrel on it. That would seem to fix a lot of the panthera issues without needing to add a front bottlle.
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Wow, you guys talking about "Karen's"!! This is about the whiniest bunch of "men?" I have ever heard. Since when does it "matter" what a Karen thinks or says? We have the rights that we have because there are voices out there in the industry. Whether it be pb firearms or air powered guns. Just because another "political" group doesn't like or partake of the same hobbies that we do, does not mean that we have to defend ourselves because of the way "they" view us or our hobbies. Try just liking the type of guns that "you" like and don't worry about the one you don't like. If you don't like a PRS style air rifle, then don't buy one!! Other than that, your opinion of said rifle is of no consequence to those that do like it. I, personally don't know of an airgun company, or any other company that don't make their products for the people that like them or to make a profit. So if you don't like something that looks like a competition rifle, then FX has lots of other guns that look more like airguns. Or if you want to stick with a gun that looks like a "toy" then buy that type of rifle from another company that you do like. But if your issue is with FX for bringing top tier products with the latest technology year after year, and want to make a profit to continue to bring great products to the market, then just stop whining!! Sometimes the "Karen" becomes the one in the mirror.
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Because that is what the politicians hear and then try to form legislation around that.
You have rights until it is taken away.
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That's correct. So make your voice heard to the politicians!! I feel like this is becoming an issue of people think they need to "hide" their love of guns, shooting, hunting etc.. Just to make sure it doesn't offend someone. "This" is still AMERICA, right?! If we don't protect our rights, then they will be taken by the haters.
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That sir is called casting. Just trap all of the lead you shoot them throw them in the melting pot.Haha! Yep. The kind of innovation I’d like to see in airgunning, rather, is something like an airgun that has the capability of recycling used pellets to be shot again … and again … and again
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I don't think that we should have to "hide" our rights and liberties from those that don't agree with us. I think that "We The People" need to stand up and speak up. Even if it only about an air rifle!
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Ben Franklin
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Ben Franklin
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Well said!! That's what I was trying to say. As a retired military man that started out in hostage rescue and negotiations on The Air Forces early EST Teams, and later in the Army as a SDM, I too use the air rifle platforms to keep my skills sharp. I love the way the FX DRS Pro has a near exact look and feel of ELR weapons.
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I am not in USA but I follow what is going on with your gun rights. As an outsider I stand far away and sometimes see clearer and wider picture than those in the picture and I can tell you it is not looking good. When did the resistance against arms got more intense? When people started to see it on you tube. The resistance against air rifles already started.
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There will always be resistance when someone wants to take your rights. That is why we make a stand. That is what the Revolutionary War was all about!
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There's always been opposition.
So many people have been screaming for people to be quiet about our airguns since the beginning. "Quiet about Suppressor, call them LDC's otherwise they'll take them away from us" "Quiet about Semi Autos and Fullies otherwise they'll take them away from us"
They've been screaming this since I can remember. I remember when I got my FX Monsoon, back when I actually supported them until they folded to "industry pressure" and decided to pull all semi autos from the shelves and future development.
I remember asking for higher power Semis and being told no way that's ever going to happen, too much scrutiny.
I remember DonnyFL telling me there's no way in hell he would make me an adapter so I could quick swap my moderators 6 years ago, well well well, look what we have this year, is that a QD for your mods? only took you 6 years to sack up.
Thank god for Evanix, Huben, EdGun, Western Airguns, even AEA and Hatsan for their willingness to progress the industry.
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My background: I shoot exclusively offhand (99.9%) in competitive air-rifle metallic silhouette and have used a .177 FX Crown since 2018. About 2 years ago I purchased a FX Impact M3 in .22 (knowing full well that it was not the "best" rifle for offhand). Very recently I sold it as I just could not get a correct balance and ergonomic fit for offhand competitive shooting -off the bench it was super accurate. In the last 2 weeks have seriously considered an AirMaks Katran LB in .22.
Now FX releases the DRS.
I am very much inclined toward placing an order for the FX DRS in .22. As I only shoot JSB pellets (never slugs) here is my preferred setup:
1. FX DRS Classic .22 in Minelli walnut
2. 600mm barrel with carbon fibre air-tube which is rated at 250 BAR and has a capacity of 260 cc. My reason for the CF air-tube is: I practice at my local range once per week and I need a rifle that will give me at least 60-70 shots before a refill, because as a senior citizen I am well and truly over lifting a 22 Kg scuba tank in and out of the car both at home and at the range.
3. Match trigger upgrade. Absolutely essential!! The trigger in the M3 was just way too heavy and really non-adjustable. My shooting colleagues have Steyrs and FWBs with trigger touch (not pull) weights of between 100-150 grams (3-5 ounces). I definitely NEED a very lightweight trigger. I have adjusted and modified the Crown's trigger and it is nearly acceptable for my offhand shooting - not super good, but ok.
4. Picatinny rail as opposed to dovetail.
5. FPE around 25-30.
From the posted pictures of the DRS Classic it would appear that it should be reasonably well balanced for offhand competitive shooting.
The advertising blurb says that "Different Impulse Valves available" - anyone got any idea what this means?
This will probably be the very last air-rifle I will purchase and I want to get it right, for me at least, the first time around.
So for me, the release by FX of the DRS is very significant, as I was only weeks away from placing an order for the Katran LB .22.
Thanks
Matt
Now FX releases the DRS.
I am very much inclined toward placing an order for the FX DRS in .22. As I only shoot JSB pellets (never slugs) here is my preferred setup:
1. FX DRS Classic .22 in Minelli walnut
2. 600mm barrel with carbon fibre air-tube which is rated at 250 BAR and has a capacity of 260 cc. My reason for the CF air-tube is: I practice at my local range once per week and I need a rifle that will give me at least 60-70 shots before a refill, because as a senior citizen I am well and truly over lifting a 22 Kg scuba tank in and out of the car both at home and at the range.
3. Match trigger upgrade. Absolutely essential!! The trigger in the M3 was just way too heavy and really non-adjustable. My shooting colleagues have Steyrs and FWBs with trigger touch (not pull) weights of between 100-150 grams (3-5 ounces). I definitely NEED a very lightweight trigger. I have adjusted and modified the Crown's trigger and it is nearly acceptable for my offhand shooting - not super good, but ok.
4. Picatinny rail as opposed to dovetail.
5. FPE around 25-30.
From the posted pictures of the DRS Classic it would appear that it should be reasonably well balanced for offhand competitive shooting.
The advertising blurb says that "Different Impulse Valves available" - anyone got any idea what this means?
This will probably be the very last air-rifle I will purchase and I want to get it right, for me at least, the first time around.
So for me, the release by FX of the DRS is very significant, as I was only weeks away from placing an order for the Katran LB .22.
Thanks
Matt
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Funny thing I mocked up the same thing as a joke when I saw the DRS launch. Big bore airgun considerations? LOL!
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