FWB 124 & 127

[kingfisher61]

Matt

For sure you are correct. I posted this very early this morning with high hopes that the Standard did come in walnut. I guess that's that! 

I have to go along with you. Sorry DMM!

JC

 

[DualMagMike]

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[Houli]

Mike I have both catalogs, I'll try to make time in the next day or two to do a search. Beeman's 1st catalog has San Anselmo Address, the 2nd catalog has the San Rafael address.

Cherrs

 

[DualMagMike]

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[kingfisher61]

Dug out my only remaining JNC stamped 124. I changed the trigger to metal among other customization.

 

[Pneumatic-Addict]

Might as well bring up a couple of things that make me go "huh?". In Gaylord's article about the history of Beeman and ARH, Tom says that Beeman was in San Rafael starting in '74, and the '75 catalog shows the San Rafael address. I asked Feinwerkbau what year my San Anselmo gun was manufactured, and their response was 1976. The same article says that Beeman told him he didn't remember any guns being stamped with the San Anselmo address; yet there are actually two different dies with that address, and apparently they were still being manufactured with the San Anselmo address for some time after the move to San Rafael.

Update: FWB 127 SN 10222 has the San Anselmo address, which means FWB was still shipping guns with that address in 1977.

 

[DualMagMike]

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[Houli]

Tom Gaylord, AKA Bb Pelletier, wrote a daily blog "Airgun Academy"

"A brief history of Beeman and Air Rifle Headquarters" - 3 Part Series

https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2010/06/a-brief-history-of-beeman-and-air-rifle-headquarters-part-1/



https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2010/07/a-brief-history-of-beeman-and-air-rifle-headquarters-part-2/



https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2010/09/a-brief-history-of-beeman-and-air-rifle-headquarters-part-3/

 

[Pneumatic-Addict]

<snip>The lowest SN I've come across is 13946, and the highest is 19652. <snip>

New one on eBay today that expands the range for the Jnc. die error. FWB 124 SN 12728

 

[KWK]

Mike,

Not to offend you, but I am inclined to think FWB mistakenly told you Walnut. Posting close up photos of the rifle would help positively identify the wood. 

What makes sense is that it is indeed European Beech with beautiful grain patterns. Photos below are also known Euro. Beech stocks which resemble your rifles colors and pattern. Rifle in question is top. If I recall Kingfisher has/had an early FWB with similar pattern on fore-arm.

How about this beauty below that sold years ago. Have to look hard to tell its not Walnut but rather Beech.

So no... not all Beech screams Beech as someone posted earlier.

NO no no! Please go back and read again. Quote: "Medullary rays (designs that look like Grandma's old white oak dresser) are screaming " I'M BEECH!" Walnut never exhibits that."

Do you know what medullary rays are? May I illustrate? Beech medullary rays often exhibit a look shown in the first 2 pictures on a MK1 Meteor. See the crescent shapes? Next is my FWB124. Some could mistake the stock for walnut. See the crescent designs in the next two fo-toes? Those are typical BEECH medullary rays.They SCREEEAM BEECH!!! Walnut never exhibits that. Most every beech stock exhibits SOME display of medullary rays in the wood. Sometimes they are more subtle. Some are the often seen beech "flecks". Some have a translucence to them. 

I've been finishing wood and playing with stocks many years. I hardly get fooled by beech If I see it in person. Finished quite a few handrails, newel posts and ballusters in all kinds of woods as a tradesman. One of my specialties. Beech is popular in staircase railings. You see all kinds of grain and patterns in a whole staircase. Especially in modern upscale homes. 

Look closely at known examples.

Mike, take the stock out of the action and smell it. LOL! Do you know what walnut smells like???? 

Be blessed and..............Thank you

 

[JohnnyPiston]

Here's a picture showing the two different stampings on the San Anselmo Beeman FWB 124'S, as requsted.

Was searching for more information on Beeman San Anselmo marked FWB 124's and came across this post.

Mine is marked identical as the one in the bottom: 

"Imported by Beeman

San Anselmo CAL."

Curious if this stamping is the first or second stamping for the San Anselmo marked guns?

 

[Houli]

Jonathan, 

I still find it of interest that Beeman, while only at the San Anselmo address a short time, is known to have two different nomenclatures for its address.

I have 3 Beeman 124's with the San Anselmo address. According to the serial numbers the earliest being associated with the

"Made in Germany for Beeman's
Precision Airguns, San Anselmo CAL"

The above address has a Serial Number
06xxx

The two later serial numbers are 79xx and
11xxx with the other nomenclature for an address - "Imported by Beeman's
San Anselmo, CAL"


So on that alone I would conclude that "Made in Germany for Beeman's" was Beeman's first stamped address.

Due to the short time span at the San Anselmo address. It would be interesting for others to chime in with their San Anselmo Beeman FWB 124/27 along with a serial number to see if this holds true, as being the first stamped address.

Cheers

 

[Sammi68]

Hello,

To add to the knowledge, I have a 127 serial # 83xx marked with the imported by beeman, San anselmo stamp. Stock has been replaced so can't comment about what it was born with. Anyone estimate the correct yr it was produced?

 

[DualMagMike]

about 1973