Flashpup in 177 or 22

[Makoda]

I have been looking at getting a Flashpup either in 177 or 22.

any differences in accuracy between the two calibers?

also do the 177s feed the pellets better than the 22s?

use would be a small game hunter so either caliber would work, but does anybody have any experience with them see one caliber outperforming the other? Maybe noise?

 

[Elbowgrease]

I have looked at them and was considering getting one as a gift for a friend. Though I have no time shooting one. My personal tastes would make me lean toward the .22. I just really like .22 round in airguns. I have only one airgun in .177 and that would be my brocock compatto. Well 2 if I count my Leshiy (with the .177 barrel installed). I can say that I have taken a lot of small game with the .177 and I also grew up shooting a .177 pumper. But in the end I prefer the .22. More energy and the pellet will be more stable at farther distances. Not sure about the flashpup at longer ranges but with my .177 compatto I can take small birds at 80 yards. Another thing to consider is that the .177 will be more quite. Not sure by how much. The .22 should mot be to bad in the sound output area. I think that you would really notice it if you moved into a .25 or something. But for me it would be to get one in .22.

 

[Coldair]

Having tried a variety of different models of Hatsans both 177 and 22 calibers in question (unregulated guns) I would suggest the 22 because the 177 would be shooting too hot unless you install a regulator in it. Out of the box my suggestion would be the 22.

If it is power you seek, it is power you will get buying a Hatsan.

I have to tell you that the factory LDCs on the Hatsans are JUNK FYI...

CA

 

[Coldair]

In 177 with the power restricted (not sure if it can be done on the Flash pup without needing a regulator) I got better groups in 177 3/8"-3/4" compared to 1/2" to 7/8" in 22 unrestricted. It would be a toss up on the magazine reliability feed question because on one hand the 177 could have an advantage since you are loading a bunch of lighter weight pellets so the spring wouldn't be as stressed as using 22 caliber heavier pellets unless someone knows for sure that they use heavier springs on their larger caliber magazines. On the other hand, the 177 pellets are more prone to get damaged because they are more fragile than 22 pellets. If you load any kind of spring loaded magazine with pellets or slugs that are either too big or too heavy you risk the chance of the magazine not properly indexing the next pellet which in turn results in shearing a portion of the freshly chambered pellet without you knowing it which would result in a flyer of course. If you load too short or too light pellets they may get damaged in the magazine when cycling to the next round. 

Hope this info was helpful...


CA

 

[Makoda]

So if the Hatsan Ldc is junk what do you do to quiet them down? Is it possible that the flash has a better ldc cause many of the reviews on pyramid air say it is very quiet, but that could just be those coming from Springers.

And is there a way to turn down the Flashpup? Change hammer springs, a screw?

 

[Coldair]

I have to tell you that when someone says its quiet, it is subjective and IMO PA has to really change their noise level scale to be more accurate because they think some loud guns are quiet while some quiet guns are loud. I think a Beeman P17 is loud. Barely offensive IMO to ME.

I would rate a 177 Benjamin Marauder on the quietest scale when it comes to off the shelf factory quieted production guns but you can get quieter than that if you have a different gun with a very good LDC. You should just try it out first to see if you can live with the noise, who knows? You may not think it is loud and your level of quiet may not be as critical or needed as others need it to be depends if your neighbors are gun activists or not, really it does. If you see TRUMP signs around your neighbors' property then I wouldn't really worry about the level of loudness.

I have never owned a Flash nor Flash Pup so I can't make an accurate assessment on that but based on the AT44s in which their air cylinders unscrew, (I don't know if the Flashpup unscrews to do this mod) one can plug a hole to lower the power. The internal hammer spring adjustment is not enough to significantly reduce the power level on those guns. Your only other choice is to shoot heavy pellets.

I would get in contact with someone like DonnyFL with your quiet questions. I prefer to buy my guns without any factory LDCs because I found that aftermarket ones seem to work better in regards to effectively quieting the blast.



CA