First Shots With Brocock Commander .22

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Jim81

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Got it awhile back but the weather has been such that I had no opportunity to shoot it. Got three magazines through it yesterday and I was quite surprised. Mounted it with a Brownell scope and after I got the eye relief set it zeroed pretty quickly. The adjustable AR type stock was really fucntional as in the particular sitting position I was in, the eye releif was better one click from fully closed. That fast adjustment was practical in this setting. With the wind blowing the targets and wiggling the metal stakes the targets were on, I got a pretty good group first try at 50 yds. I was using JSB Hades and they are not the most highly recommended pellets for that gun. I probably could have covered a 5 shot group with a 50 cent piece. Not bad for the second magazine and the wind blowing. I had shot it early in the zeroing process and it was really pretty close to hole in hole at 25yds with no wind.

A couple complaints though. The trigger as it came was horrible. I tinkered with it a little bit and improved things some but the second stage pull effort was not good for me. I didn't measure it but it certainly wasn't in ounces. More like pounds. And...the particular AR foldable 'furinture' stock they put on the gun is not solid. It wiggles some. That's in contrast to my FX Compact Tactical I have with the AR funiture folding sstock and it doesn't move a bit. A bit humoreous so far is I can't get the stock to fold as it is supposed to. Contacted AOA and saw some videos and I still can't get it to fold. The FX folds super easy. Maybe I will have to make some changes and get the same stock the FX has on it. It is unusual as they refer to it as an AR type adaptable platform but the the grip is AK not AR so if you want something like a Hogue better check and make sure I haven't given you inaccurate information. Oh! One more dislike. When the magazine is empty and you didn't count your shots it will dry fire on an empty magzine. I have 3 other PCPs and their magazine design prevents you from firing on an empty magazine.

In the final analysis, so far, it's a thumbs up on this rifle.
 
I had to return mine as it refused to group consistently (usually formed two or three tight groups with wide spread.) AoA replaced barrel and I haven't tried it since getting the new barrel. I replaced the stock on mine as I didn't like the folding one. So all in all, I'd rate the Brocock Commander midiocre at best. But we'll see this spring when I can get out to shoot it.
 
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Sorry to hear that the trigger doesn't adjust. I too am a Daystate fan and have a pulsar .22. Can let that sit for weeks and then go to shoot and the first shot Is right where I aim itl Cuzz Daystate and Brocock are like adopted brothers/sisters (politically correct here) I thought I'd give the commander a try.

I got the after market board for the pulsar. On power level 4, which won't punch a hole in a barn roof, you can hardly hear it. as a matter of fact the first time i dry fired it inside I had to put a piece of paper in front of the moderator to see the air blow it. Talk a bout shot count on low power.

Back to the Commander. I'll give it a fair shake and then I'll sell it if I must and have an excuse to try something else. It's already more accurate than the Raw 1000X, which is being returned soon from factory service. It too was supposed to be super accurate. Well mine wasn't. Great people in the RAW CS department did all they could to help me out. Leaning towards selling it as is from the sealed unopened box I'll receive after factory service.
 
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I liked mine I just wasn't a "bottle boy" (no insult intended). I took a squirrel with CPDs at 115 yrds with it, it's amazingly accurate, but it just wasn't for me. After the experience I've had with the Daystate electronic trigger I'm not going back. The trigger always was a hoss and really not much you can do with it. If I let it sit after a while I'd get some regulator creep but not too bad. If your check valve ever goes bad it's a bit of a pain since you have to either make or purchase a pin wrench (spanner, lol) to get into the internals and then even after that you might need a strap wrench or a vice to get to it.

All in all great little PCP but I'm not sure which niche it fills between the Pulsar/Renegade and the Concept XR.
 
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Dang it you guys! You are scaring me. Value the information though. I was looking fora 100 yd pellet gun of some kind. I am absolutely not going to slugs. Might as well use a powder burner for that, Wich I have and don't like to shoot. The RAW was one I tried and had to return to the factory. It is unweildly heavy. So I took a WAG and went for the Brocock because of the partnership with Daystate. Maybe I'll be back to my original quest. I have decided I am not going to open the box of the RAW that was serviced by the RAW factory and sell it on the classifieds. Of course with a full description of what the history is of that rifle. Gonna lose some $$ there for sure.

Might eat $70 to ship the Brocock to AOA if it behaves like other posters have experienced. I have to ask...has anyone had a good experience with this rifle? So far except the trigger I really like it. No leaks so far.
 
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@jim81, I have had consistently good accuracy and reliability from my Bantam Sniper HR. I've posted many consecutive five shot groups at 40 and 50 yards. In good conditions, easy dime sized groups with JSB Exact Jumbo 18s. Could I do that off the bat? No, I had to do my part, while not a match trigger it can be adjusted lighter than received from the factory. My rifle has been good for thousands of pellets down range. Furthest kills on pigeons out to 100 yards. Many, many rats from 20 to 55 yards, the rifle is deadly, Brococks reputation for accuracy is real, a few lemons aside. I am fortunate to have shooting stations from 25 yards out to 102 yards and I have put her to the test plenty and often. I purchased the Bantam after being wowed with the accuracy of my Compatto, which has hundreds of pest kills from 20 to 104 yards. Both rifles shoot better than I can hold. All distances range finder measure.
 
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Dang it you guys! You are scaring me.
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Don't get me wrong, the Brocock Commander is nice, and accurate. I found that the Concept Lite was a better fit for me and equally accurate, without the bottle. The velocity was slower but I only shoot CPD or CPH. I sold the Commander to Hajimoto and was forthcoming up front with the leak issues; he was happy. For the rattling butt stock I used a thick olive-drab ribbon and pulled it through. I would venture to say all Brocock triggers are the same; the Concept Lite was the same as the Commander. The reality is the Brococks have a stiff trigger and that depends on personal preference. I had no issues with the trigger system for bench plinking but my personal preference really loves the electronic trigger on the Daystate's.

For me, this hobby has been a progression of selection. Gamo Urban -> Brocock Commander -> Brocock Concept Lite -> Pulsar -> Pulsar + Renegade are my keepers.

My .22 Pulsar with the 300cc cylinder is above and beyond what my Brocock Commander .22 was with the 480cc bottle.


 
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If you want that type of form factor and aren't in a hurry, these are supposed to be coming out soon. The AA platform is well proven, but I don't like the safety. Not a deal breaker though.

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Wonder why the barrel band attached to the air cylinder; sounds like a POI mess. Wonder why they didn't float the barrel instead of having it drug along with the cylinder during thermal expansion/contraction...
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Why do people complain about FX's wandering POI? FX has an optional barrel band for their tube guns, so I guess there's some merit to having them. Incase you get the impression I'm anti FX, I own a MKII Impact 700mm .25cal rifle and like it.
 
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