first airgun (and transportation by plane)

Hi all,
I'm traveling in the USA, where airguns are easily available and much cheaper than in Europe. Where I live, you have to go to a specialised shop where they charge twice the price of Walmart. I'm looking at piston rifles between 100 and 200USD. Haven't figured out the caliber yet. I'm looking for a recommendation for a rifle, where I can later add on a "better quality" scope (or whatever ~100USD buys me). I hear the standard scopes that come with an air rifle aren't very good. Whatever I buy can have a scope, or should be able to fit a good one. What would you recommend for target shooting?

Another question: I'm not sure if an air rifle would fit my checked luggage, maybe it's too long. Can I remove some parts so the rifle isn't as long? Is it realistic to fold the barrel during transportation?
 
Give us a little more information. What area, city and state, will you be visiting . We can then point you to a decent store and give you some better help. 
You should not under any circumstances try to take something in carry on luggage and you would be much wiser to simply ship a new gun in it original box along with your checked luggage and pay the extra luggage free. This is all assuming you are legally allowed to take it back into your country. Air guns are not considered firearm in the US but not everyone understands this and you run a big risk of scaring the hell out of some official if you are not completely forthcoming.

The trouble you will cause yourself by trying to avoid the luggage fee and not openly declaring what you are shipping could be a nightmare.
 
Tho shalt compile with TSA regulations , and opions even

"The final decision rests with the TSA officer on whether an item is allowed through the checkpoint"
Sort of the range master.
Pretty much everyone I know that travels often with airguns uses a Pelican case and a copy of the TSA regs. Not using HPA ( your a springer person right?) helps but it will need to be in an approved locked case - a cheap one may work?- and airlines do charge a "specoial" fee.
Always call ahead.

John
 
Please research your rifle choice because you may be wasting your money on those rifles you have considered. A bit more money and you can get a rifle that you will actually be able to hit your target with! Accuracy is more important than price and power. If you CAN'T HIT what you're aiming at then NOTHING else matters in a rifle. Think about it!! ACCURACY first----------then add power with ACCURACY first!!! Trust an old airgunner since the 1960's era. : ). I'm not a salesman!!!! This is one of those areas where when (you get what you pay for) matters. Use this forum for guidance and you will thank yourself for a lifetime. Check out AEAC reviews!
 
wow, thanks for all the quick answers :) 

------“Thurmond”Use Caution as many scopes in the USA are ITAR and or EAR items meaning they cannot be exported so you might want to make sure before purchase that you can get home with it.------

okay, that’s an important bit of info. will check it out. 

---------“socaloldman”Give us a little more information. What area, city and state, will you be visiting . We can then point you to a decent store and give you some better help. You should not under any circumstances try to take something in carry on luggage and you would be much wiser to simply ship a new gun in it original box along with your checked luggage and pay the extra luggage free. This is all assuming you are legally allowed to take it back into your country. Air guns are not considered firearm in the US but not everyone understands this and you run a big risk of scaring the hell out of some official if you are not completely forthcoming.The trouble you will cause yourself by trying to avoid the luggage fee and not openly declaring what you are shipping could be a nightmare.-----------

I’m in Indiana right now, where I mostly see the area of Michigan city, South Bend, La Porte and Valparaiso
Obviously I wouldn’t take this with my carry-on. It would go in the checked luggage. I’m familiar with the rules, such as “no pressurised containers”. Putting it in the original box would be a good idea, as long as it’s unpacked and not “brand new”. Yes, I’m legally allowed to take an air rifle into my country. Only short air rifles with over 7.5 joules of energy require a license. ​

------Tho shalt compile with TSA regulations , and opions even“The final decision rests with the TSA officer on whether an item is allowed through the checkpoint”Sort of the range master.Pretty much everyone I know that travels often with airguns uses a Pelican case and a copy of the TSA regs. Not using HPA ( your a springer person right?) helps but it will need to be in an approved locked case – a cheap one may work?- and airlines do charge a “specoial” fee.Always call ahead.John--------------
sounds cumbersome. I’ll call my airline.-------------Please research your rifle choice because you may be wasting your money on those rifles you have considered. A bit more money and you can get a rifle that you will actually be able to hit your target with! Accuracy is more important than price and power. If you CAN’T HIT what you’re aiming at then NOTHING else matters in a rifle. Think about it!! ACCURACY first———-then add power with ACCURACY first!!! Trust an old airgunner since the 1960’s era. : ). I’m not a salesman!!!! This is one of those areas where when (you get what you pay for) matters. Use this forum for guidance and you will thank yourself for a lifetime. Check out AEAC reviews!4
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well, I agree. I’ve only had break-action pistols as a kid, and I would like to learn some proper shooting with an airgun now. I don’t have a need for much power, but don’t want to spend a fortune until I get familiar with something more humble first.I would like to shoot vermin or hunt small game, but that’s not allowed in Belgium. Laws are outdated stuff, from when air guns were too weak to kill with one shot. Getting a hunting license is a huge effort here, and then you would only be allowed to shoot exotic/invasive species with a PCP rifle.
 
Welcome Teus,
Don't know if it's possible given you are traveling, but if you can get a package shipped to you where you're staying Airguns of Arizona has very good prices on Weirauch rifles. I'd highly recommend the HW30s, HW50s, or HW95. They're a bit above your budget, but are proven performers and quality built. Not sure if you can buy from Krale Scheitsport in the Netherlands but their prices on HW rifles are even lower than Airguns of Arizona.
Good luck!
John
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HW 30s
 
digging around, I found this:
https://www.tsa.gov/blog/2013/07/16/tsa-travel-tips-tuesday-traveling-airsoft-guns

"Like paintball guns, Airsoft guns are perfectly fine to transport in your checked baggage, and as with BB and pellet guns, there is no need to declare them as you would a real firearm."

I'll call my airline, since the TSA is OK with it, and the airgun is legal in my country.
John: I've heard good things about Weirauch. I'll consider it later in life. For now I'll get something affordable, to figure out how well they would work for me. I can probably sell them in Europe without making a los...
 
Hawke optics and Osprey Global both have scope options that are right around the $100 mark, and I have been very happy with both of mine.

In regards to taking it home, sounds like you should just move to the USA, the northwest states offer similar climates to much of europe! I jest of course, enjoy your trip, hope you get to go home with a fun new air gun!
 
hah! Owning a house, hunting and being a car enthousiast are far easier in the USA... but not enough to convince me. My girlfriend is from Indiana, so we did talk about it.
Anyways, in the end I'm not bringing anything home. Either I have to take an airgun apart to fit it in my luggage, or send it as an separate piece of checked luggage. I'm not willing to do either right now. I'll find a modest rifle back at home to get some experience. On a next USA trip, I can take something home once I have more experience, and a budget that makes it worth it.