Fill fittings

[Nordic Norm]

I definitely prefer fill ptobes to quick connect. There is no manufacturing standards for guick connect. It is a mismatched cluster jam. Some fit together, some don't. Contrast that with fill probes. Fill probes always work smoothly and efficiently. Fill probes will not fly off under pressure as the quick connect will if not fully engaged. The argument I hear for QC is universal fit, fine concept, failed execution. I'll take a probe over QC whenever possible

 

[joelayfield]

so do fill probes all have the same quick connect male foster fitting ?

 

[Trucker3573]

First time to hear everything. Definitely the first time I’ve heard this.

 

[Nordic Norm]

so do fill probes all have the same quick connect male foster fitting ?

Depends on what you screw onto them. Some fosters work some don't. The flaw is with the QC/foster interface not the probe to gun. I find a foster that fits the female connections on my tanks and compressor that works, hit and miss. That is the point, no standard for quick connect. A partiality connected foster can cause quite a stir if it flies off.

 

[Nordic Norm]

First time to hear everything. Definitely the first time I’ve heard this.

My own experience with quick connect and foster.

 

[MikeVV]

I've found that the few "on gun" fittings that I have are a nicer fit than many separate probes.
I prefer a snug fit to a loose, "easy to assemble" fit any day ! Provides a little more feeling of they "wont" come apart under pressure.

I've got some loose fill probes, that I keep my face away from when filling !!!
Unfortunately, there is no "national standard" that the probes Foster dimensions, or any of the separate fittings are held to.

US, British, (various !) Euro...pick one ! Plus any given country...each machine shop can do pretty much what they please.

Mike

 

[Trucker3573]

Never had any problems with foster fittings myself. Especially flying off. Sometimes they might need a little manual manipulation. You might have to pull the quick connect part to make it snap completely into place. If they slightly leak when starting to fill I’ve either replaced the orings or gave it a little wiggle which will often in itself do the trick. Having numerous proprietary probes is really a royal PIA. Just weird as I have never heard of anyone in this hobby preferring fill probes.

Notice……I said manipulation not stimulation

 

[HubenK1Sniper92]

I hate fill probes, just don't know why they can't make one fill probe standard for all rifles instead of 50 different sizes, I prefer QC hands down and I'm sure 99.9% of the people in here prefer too, fill probes suck

 

[JimD]

I have 5 pcps, 2 with foster connections for filling and 3 with probes. All were under $500 new. The foster fitting guns fill up reliably every time if I do not mess up but I will admit I've failed to get the hose on the fitting right before. But if I do not mess up, the foster connection does not leak. The fill probes, on the other hand, need new O-rings from time to time and need a little silicone grease too sometimes or they leak. I've got one that still leaks after I changed the O-rings and greased it. I have another that is so tight it is very difficult to connect to the fill hose on the foster end and hard to get into the gun on the other end. My guess is fill probes on guns costing 2-3X as much might work better. But I would prefer manufacturers just put on a foster fitting.

 

[scottg0814]

I'm not a fan of fill probes. Partially because it's a loose part that I have to keep track of. I have 2 guns that use probes and, of course, they're different. I've had no issues with the fittings on my guns with a QC and all of them are much older than the guns with probes... in fact, I use a small air/oil filter when filling my guns from my tanks and one of the probes doesn't work well with the filter. Fill probes have a QC on them anyway so what exactly is the advantage of the probes?

 

[ctshooter]

I have no preference at the end of the day. Fill probes can get lost and there are several different styles which drives me nuts sometimes, but for the airguns I have the EdGun probe also fits the Taipan Vet and Weirauch which covers most scenarios.

As the OP states - there really is no standard followed for QD so some fit together, some don't at all and some take a bit of wiggling to get on. Can prove to be just as frustrating a fill probes when you need a few different QDs to fit all your guns too.

 

[Nordic Norm]

I hate fill probes, just don't know why they can't make one fill probe standard for all rifles instead of 50 different sizes, I prefer QC hands down and I'm sure 99.9% of the people in here prefer too, fill probes suck

Fill probes are gun specific. That's why they work so smoothly and easily. I'm not trying to convince you, only stating my preference.

 

[Nordic Norm]

I'm not a fan of fill probes. Partially because it's a loose part that I have to keep track of. I have 2 guns that use probes and, of course, they're different. I've had no issues with the fittings on my guns with a QC and all of them are much older than the guns with probes... in fact, I use a small air/oil filter when filling my guns from my tanks and one of the probes doesn't work well with the filter. Fill probes have a QC on them anyway so what exactly is the advantage of the probes?

Fill probes are ez to use, gun brand specific and safe. I select a male foster that works on the female fosters on the tanks and fit them to the probes. My guns with foster fittings require two hands to connect and disconnect to the gun as one handed operation will bend the whip at the fill end. Probes slide in one and out one handed with no resistance. If you don't fill often in the field this wouldn't be an issue.

 

[Nordic Norm]

I have no preference at the end of the day. Fill probes can get lost and there are several different styles which drives me nuts sometimes, but for the airguns I have the EdGun probe also fits the Taipan Vet and Weirauch which covers most scenarios.

As the OP states - there really is no standard followed for QD so some fit together, some don't at all and some take a bit of wiggling to get on. Can prove to be just as frustrating a fill probes when you need a few different QDs to fit all your guns too.

That wiggling requires two hands to prevent the whip from getting bent, probes are smooth ez one handed in and out

 

[HogKiller]

Frankly, I don't care which I use, and I've got both, as long as they don't come out and smack the family jewels, I'm good to go. As an aside, what IS the o-ring size in a Foster? I'd look it up but it's way easier to inconvenience someone else.

 

[HubenK1Sniper92]

Fill probes are gun specific. That's why they work so smoothly and easily. I'm not trying to convince you, only stating my preference.

I’m not a noob, I know fill probes are rifle specific I have a whole damn parts bin of different ones, my point is why can’t they make a standard fill probe for all rifles that take them, it sucks having 50 different fill probes lying around, changing wore out o-rings on them, misplacing them, some of these probes are hard to come by now or non existent, like my Ataman’s for example, my bp17 probe is smaller than the one for my M2 platform, why can’t they just have one for the brand? And good luck finding a fill probe for a bp17 or ap16 if you lose one, QC are just so much easier

 

[Nordic Norm]

I’m not a noob, I know fill probes are rifle specific I have a whole damn parts bin of different ones, my point is why can’t they make a standard fill probe for all rifles that take them, it sucks having 50 different fill probes lying around, changing wore out o-rings on them, misplacing them, some of these probes are hard to come by now or non existent, like my Ataman’s for example, my bp17 probe is smaller than the one for my M2 platform, why can’t they just have one for the brand? And good luck finding a fill probe for a bp17 or ap16 if you lose one, QC are just so much easier

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Sorry, didn't mean to upset you. Better question is, why aren't foster/qc standardized. Can't expect gun manufacturers from several different countries to agree on a probe standard. Foster /qc are marketed as universal, to bad there are so many interface problems with the 'universal ' qc.

 

[HogKiller]

I’m not a noob, I know fill probes are rifle specific I have a whole damn parts bin of different ones, my point is why can’t they make a standard fill probe for all rifles that take them, it sucks having 50 different fill probes lying around, changing wore out o-rings on them, misplacing them, some of these probes are hard to come by now or non existent, like my Ataman’s for example, my bp17 probe is smaller than the one for my M2 platform, why can’t they just have one for the brand? And good luck finding a fill probe for a bp17 or ap16 if you lose one, QC are just so much easier

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I have only one fill probe and it's on my Zbroia Sapsan and currently I'd probably be hard pressed to ask Mr. Putin to hold up for a bit so they could make me another. I had an absolute panic the other day, couldn't find it, finally did, it was under a shop towel. Needed a drink after that.

 

[HubenK1Sniper92]

I have only one fill probe and it's on my Zbroia Sapsan and currently I'd probably be hard pressed to ask Mr. Putin to hold up for a bit so they could make me another. I had an absolute panic the other day, couldn't find it, finally did, it was under a shop towel. Needed a drink after that.

I feel your pain, good thing I have a bunch of Ataman probes, I had a zbroia and it was a good rifle

 

[HubenK1Sniper92]

Sorry, didn't mean to upset you. Better question is, why aren't foster/qc standardized. Can't expect gun manufacturers from several different countries to agree on a probe standard. Foster /qc are marketed as universal, to bad there are so many interface problems with the 'universal ' qc.

Not upset, all good.. never had an issue with a QC except one leaking a little and just needed tightened.. I did have a reximex throne with QC and would only work will the supplied fitting from the factory.