Resources Field target is an arms race price test

[dan_house]

"Also, why would you leave your gun in direct sunlight Dan? Don't you cover it with a towel/reflective wrap or keep it in a gun bag? I do everything I can to keep my rig at ambient temperature"

yes under a reflective cover. still when its 85 - 100 ambient, hard to keep the gun cool(er)

might be a tangent to this..... gearing up for the worlds, I ran across some info that spoke of springers slowing down as it gets warmer. Running longer (35-50 shots) strings over the chrony, I measured the gun's starting temp, and the temp after showed a 5 - 8 degree increase. Ambient temp in that case was 60ish F. So the gun -- at least mine-- is affected by the heat. Hence my comment....

 

[Iowa Airgunner]

I keel a tiny folding umbrella in my kit. Helps with rain also

 

[dan_house]

"Also, why would you leave your gun in direct sunlight Dan?"

I wouldnt.
I should have more fully explained why I said that: having the varied quality of guns affected by heat then testing may show temp related shifts. Id expect the "better quality" gun to show less them than the lower cost models. IMO. a justifiable part of the arms race is having gear that not as affected by environmental conditions.

 

[Iowa Airgunner]

Silver titanium tube on the scope is a perfect example of that. That adds a grand I bet.

 

[Motorhead]

Shot from a bench on bags or otherwise is a POLAR DIFFERENCE from how you would hold and shoot actual field Targets in competition !!!
Ergonomics of each type rifle, mitigating recoil, comfort in holding steady and how rifle gets supported are so different that any FT position and miens does not apply & the data while an interesting read is pretty irrelevant IMO as presented for FT comparative sake.

Just my perspective ... no insulting intended

 

[Iowa Airgunner]

You should check out the mess I had at the range today. I posted a long version on best day at the range.

TX200 from the bench was a 4 inch group at 50 yards and from the bucket and sticks it was 1 inch . But I am still finding the best hold with the sticks.

It should be less than 1 inch.

 

[Iowa Airgunner]

Better today.
I had to spend some time with the sight in and dope chart after replacing my scope.
As for an arms race. The gun is definitely the important part. But unless you spend serous money on a scope you will not get what you want from the gun. I have never been able to range with a scope the between 50 yards and 55 yards before today.

This is two cards with a click of scope adjustment between them. Ten shots from 50 yards.
Scope is zeroed at 25 yards. I aimed at the top POA and the impact is just about 2 mil down. Is that how it is said?
The second long crosshairs, Is that two mil?

 

[HunterWhiteHead]

That’s impressive Iowa.
That is 4 data points for different level springers and one data point for upper tier PCP. I hope to get my low to mid Challenger on paper soon. I don’t have a springer.

It will be very interesting when more people with more expensive and less expensive rifles contribute.


Hunter

 

[cavedweller]

Ok this was just a first test . Four guns at 20 yards indoors/ outdoors no wind.
Problem is it is very humid. I was dripping with sweat by the time I was done. And shooting from a roll cart . The Diana was not stable so I will shoot the whole thing over on Saturday or Sunday. Depends on the weather.

But I predict this will be the end result also.
20 yards. 2000 dollars is just over 1/4 inch tight group.
For 1000 dollars it’s a 1/2 inch group. I was sweating and the rifle bounced causing the flyer.
The 500 and 200 guns are about the same. Most are under an inch . Aside from the flyers. They will do better at the range with the proper bench.

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although 20 yards is nice to see (zero for many <12 fpe airguns) for a true field target rig comparison, it is the group at 55 yards that we need to focus on for comparison lest we muddy the waters. Make sure to take all the shots from a steady bench as it is important to remove as much of the human factor so we are seeing what the gun can do, rather than the shooter.
Most airguns guns will group okay out to 30-35 yards but after that things will open up.
I'm hoping to do several 55 yards groups this weekend, perhaps sunday if the wind is compliant.

 

[cavedweller]

Better today.
I had to spend some time with the sight in and dope chart after replacing my scope.
As for an arms race. The gun is definitely the important part. But unless you spend serous money on a scope you will not get what you want from the gun. I have never been able to range with a scope the between 50 yards and 55 yards before today.

This is two cards with a click of scope adjustment between them. Ten shots from 50 yards.
Scope is zeroed at 25 yards. I aimed at the top POA and the impact is just about 2 mil down. Is that how it is said?
The second long crosshairs, Is that two mil?

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perfect info!