EVOL has landed!!!!

Well got out this morning on such a beautiful day for Jan 3 about 45 degrees and clear skies! Been having some rough weather lately. Temps are quite above normal as well. Anyways did my slug testing with the NSA Samples I got in. These ones are showing some real promise and ones I'm going to work with further. The speeds are 950fps with the 17.5gr, 890fps with the 20.2gr and 830fps with the 23gr. Thats just where I bumped up the speed for now no fine tuning but will do so when I decide which one to go with. Groups are at 57yds. Some are really good others not so good. Will need to stretch it further at 100yds to see which ones hold up best there before fine tuning.

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It appears that all of the groups have nearly the same poi spacing between each shot, regardless of group poi shift and speed. (With a couple group standouts each way, of course). This may be because of the majority of those packs are .216" diameter slugs, and the barrel may like a tighter slug. A .217-.218" diameter may work well to tighten up that pattern without a need for tuning to correct the difference between slug and barrel sizes.
 
Well the ones pictured are actually the ones that did best. The larger groups are from ones that didn't which were the larger sizes like .217 and .218.

That's pretty consistent accuracy with sizing then. That group on target 17 looks really good, showing minimal side to side width due to some wind. How is the barrel doing on leading up? My Slayer will do hundreds of rounds with no leading, but I shoot wet silicone lubed slugs so as to keep it consistent shot for shot.
 
Old Sparky;

First, not bore size but groove size. I first slug the barrel and then order sizing inserts from NOE just under this. I buy two or three of them. I test under size by .003 thou, then polish the up in size by .0001 at a time until I find accuracy. I continue until accuracy or fps falls off. This is where the additional size inserts come in. I now know exactly where the sized needs to be for a given slug in my barre. A different slug may very well require a slightly different size.

So many say their gun can't or won't shoot slugs. Is it that, or just not properly sized. Buying a premade slug for a gun or many guns that preforms at a top level is more like blind hog finds acorn. Luck in the highest order. This will explain why many find one Impact with a given barrel shoots well, when another says his is terrible. One is lucky, one is not. neither have given due diligence to what is usually required for top performance. 

Oddly, many think a slug cannot be slightly under sized for the barrel. However, a .0001 or .0002 may show a tiny light around them n the bore but the blow by is insignificant. The friction caused in a barrel with a slug is much greater. It is a balance act. For instance, both being accurate, you may loose 5-10 fps to blow by, yet size up one more .0001 and loose 20-30 fps due to friction. As I said. A balancing act. Something a strictly plug and play shooter will never consider or experience.

More than likely, simply due to not understanding internal ballistics and expecting the manufactures to magically do everything for them. Which of course, is impossible and very naïve. 

The FX slug helps in this regard, as it is much more compressible. And why a choke works with them. Chokes are terrible in most cases with typical full bodied slugs. An FX barre has a choke of .005. Not .0005, but .005. HUGE!!! The slug if a full solid slug, unlike the Fx version will have to be sized to the choke. Not barrel. Now you have huge blow by and a slug not perfectly centered in the bore and rattling down the bore until it slams into the choke. Maybe straight, Maybe not. No control what so ever! Which makes a good leaded almost iffy if not virtually useless. 



I removed the choke on the Fx Superior Heavy .22 and reaped huge benefits with slugs other than FX Brand. 



Before and After pic's.
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Last pic, one shot to settle reg, 10 on target. 35 gr slug, 930 fps, 80 yards. (All I have here). 

Knife






 
Decided to finally get into the gun and tune it up! Or down I should say. The gun came tuned to a max of 890fps with the JSB Redesigned monsters. Set at 1900psi with only a 15" barrel is impressive! Anyways too hot for my needs so I turned it down. If looking at it like a clock with 12hrs, I turned it clockwise 4hrs. Gauge says around 1600psi? Hard to tell exactly but is exactly what I wanted. Max speed with JSB 18gr is 910fps and turned it down to 880fps. Very happy with the tune now. 

Shot count: 8
Low: 868
Hi: 881
Avg: 875
STD Dev: 5.1
Spread: 13.0

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1/14/21 8:31:44 PM,877
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1/14/21 8:31:52 PM,868
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1/14/21 8:32:00 PM,875
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Nice job, Dairyboy!

I shot mine for the first time in a while yesterday. I've been very tempted to do the exact same thing to mine. It's only good for 900 fps w the 25.4s (what I asked for), so anyway, shot some 18.1s yesterday to see how they did first. Velocity was 989 to 1007. Shot pretty incredible!! I may just leave it... lol. Still grouped pretty well at 150 yds in the conditions I had. 

Still looking at that LuthAR stock. I like the looks and the Magpul on mine makes it feel a bit heavy.

Bob
 
Thanks Bob!

Yeah I haven't shot mine much at all lately due to very wet weather. Yeah honestly mine seems to really like the 18gr going fast also! Would still stack them at 55yds. But enjoy the lack of noise and efficiency of it turned down to 30fpe. I like 18gr and 16gr JSBs and Hades and I knew the tune was way too fast for the 16gr. It's a real sweet shooter now very easy to cock also!

I'm still very happy with the Luth-AR. Very comfy and less heft than the Magpul. If I had the HPS or .30 I think I'd want the magpul with the heft to help with more recoil but as dead of a shot the .22 standard is at 30fpe no need IMO
 
I just got my Hps 22. Does anyone have any input on what slugs to start with? Kinda of funny its a slug gun. But can't find any info on this. Called Tom but haven't herd back. Thanks again on any input Steve

Well it claims to be a 60fpe airgun. I would start with slugs in the 25-30gr range as that would give you 1050-950 fps for the rated power. 

I wonder how many of the HPS models are out there as you are the first I've heard to talk about one. 
 
Decided to finally get into the gun and tune it up! Or down I should say. The gun came tuned to a max of 890fps with the JSB Redesigned monsters. Set at 1900psi with only a 15" barrel is impressive! Anyways too hot for my needs so I turned it down. If looking at it like a clock with 12hrs, I turned it clockwise 4hrs. Gauge says around 1600psi? Hard to tell exactly but is exactly what I wanted. Max speed with JSB 18gr is 910fps and turned it down to 880fps. Very happy with the tune now. 

Shot count: 8
Low: 868
Hi: 881
Avg: 875
STD Dev: 5.1
Spread: 13.0

1/14/21 8:31:38 PM,881
1/14/21 8:31:44 PM,877
1/14/21 8:31:48 PM,870
1/14/21 8:31:52 PM,868
1/14/21 8:31:56 PM,881
1/14/21 8:32:00 PM,875
1/14/21 8:32:05 PM,881
1/14/21 8:32:09 PM,870


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Looking at the groups, if you are going to sell it in parts, I might be interested in the scope.
 
Not sure I know there is 2 because I drove from Temecula ca out to AofA yesterday morning. Walk in store one other guy there he was buying exact gun. Was thinking I drove all that distance for pellets
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. Thanks for the starting point

You got lucky it sounds like. All of the AAA line of Evol's are selling really well from what I was told. And, that only a small percentage of people buying are even on this site, so it seems there is a much bigger market than just the members here. For months I had to keep going back on to the AoA website checking on when they were in stock and kept missing the boat on the model I wanted. (They are no longer pre-ordered like the Slayer models.) No one was posting much on them until recently either. As the percentage of member owners goes up more technical (tuning) support will be available.
 
Your right i was lucky I had called the nite before At that time they had two evol 30s and 3 hps 1mini. All that was left was the mini and a hps. Claudio had a review few months back but he just shot the jsb 25. It Just seems if the gun was design for slugs,shouldn't they be shooting them. I'm sure as time goes by will see more info. I am kinda curious how many are out there. I'll be shooting a bunch of different slugs tomorrow will keep people posted. 
 
Your right i was lucky I had called the nite before At that time they had two evol 30s and 3 hps 1mini. All that was left was the mini and a hps. Claudio had a review few months back but he just shot the jsb 25. It Just seems if the gun was design for slugs,shouldn't they be shooting them. I'm sure as time goes by will see more info. I am kinda curious how many are out there. I'll be shooting a bunch of different slugs tomorrow will keep people posted.

The Evol HPS 22 was designed to be a slug shooter with a faster twist rate barrel. The Evol Mini 22 was not, nor was the Evol 22 standard model. Based on the twist rates of the longer Elov 25 and 30 they may not have been designed as true slug shooters either. All of the AAA models are definitely capable of shooting slugs, but they will need to be tested with a variety of lengths and styles of slugs to get the best long range accuracy. Slug shooters are a small niche segment of the airgun world, but that is slowly changing.